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02/13/08, 10:18 PM
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#51
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Soda Popinski
Docjowles
Gnome Mage
No WoW Account
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Not that I am aware of. Do you have an example of a mod that would do that? If I get time tomorrow I will try disabling all mods except Omen, Dock and SimpleMiniMap and see what happens.
The crash went away when I deleted the Dock.lua files under SavedVariables, so I am fairly confident that they are linked. It could be Mac only?
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02/14/08, 3:44 AM
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#52
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Priest
Feathermoon
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I just wanted to say this addon was well worth the wait, I Love it!!!
The only suggestion I have would be to try and find a way to lock the docked addons in the dock, while still leaving the functionality of disabling the overlay. I'm not sure if thats possible but I suggest it because I've had trouble w/ my ElkBuffBar undocking itself.
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02/14/08, 10:11 AM
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#53
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Glass Joe
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That's apparently a bug only the EBB authors can fix
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02/14/08, 3:42 PM
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#54
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Glass Joe
Troll Mage
Twisting Nether
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Just to update you Kameril, i haven't had any assessment windows dissapear since after the updating of the intial open beta.
Can't wait to be able to interact with mods/chat box (atleast the chat box) inside of dock.
something that i wouldn't classify as a bug but is kind of annoying though, is when redragging mods/windows that are docked to reorganize them dock will apparently decide that they were undocked and redocked wherever you dragged it is the position it was docked from.
I realize that might not make sense so i'll give you a scenario~
After a boss i go to link damage done from assessment so i restore the window report the damage done in O chat, then redock it, but now its the last thing and its on top of my EBB frame so i go to drag it down under it, next time i go to restore this window it restores it, just slightly to the left of my dock into a position it was in while i dragged it under my EBB frame.
Thanks for creating such a wonderful mod.
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02/14/08, 4:17 PM
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#55
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Docjowles
If I get time tomorrow I will try disabling all mods except Omen, Dock and SimpleMiniMap and see what happens.
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That should be a significant help in tracking down the problem.
Auralin, next version should have some better options for locking and ignoring mouse clicks. However, the overlay and EBB undocking aren't related. As keshian noted there's nothing I can do from Dock, it's something the EBB author(s) would have to change. It's not necessarily a bug, but a design decision that has the unintentional side effect of Dock being unable to save information on it.
ishellbulleti, in versions .6 and higher you're able to disable the overlay and interact with docked frames directly by unchecking "Use overlays" in the advanced tab.
Also, for the redocking issue, are you using a keybind or dragging the frames in? If you're using a keybind it becomes somewhat complex to figure out where to redock a frame as there can be a significant change in positions since the last time a frame was docked. As in, you undock a frame, then end up docking 3 different frames in various locations, where does the first frame go now when you redock it?
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02/15/08, 3:14 PM
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#56
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Von Kaiser
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I too am having the same issues with Omen (and to some extent EBB) as Docjowles. When I try to dock Omen it enlarges to about 4x it's normal size and takes up almost the entire dock. The EBB bars do the same enlargement thing, but I've given up on docking them due to the bug where they become un-docked after a reload of the UI.
I *just* rebuilt my UI from scratch yesterday and I'm getting the resizing error. However, Omen will size correctly for me when I have the test threat bars showing (so it's not just the blank omen bar.)
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02/15/08, 9:15 PM
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#57
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Glass Joe
Orc Shaman
Ahn'Qiraj (EU)
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Hi there.
Old time reader but decided to register and starting by thanking for this addon. So far it's been working great, only troubles i've had were that Assesment/Eavesdrop were getting really big inside docks, but it seems solved now. Omen pops out of it every now and then but i see that's been noted as troublesome.
I also made a very short video which i uploaded to youtube with a bit of dock-testing.
YouTube - Dock testing (world of warcraft)
sorry for the quality, original is 1920x1200 full-hd but youtube screws it all over :-/
Regards, Kniff.
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02/19/08, 1:11 AM
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#58
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Glass Joe
Troll Mage
Twisting Nether
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Is XRS dockable for other people, my friend says he can dock it, but i cannot seem to find a way to dock it.
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02/19/08, 12:55 PM
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#59
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Glass Joe
Human Rogue
Wildhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by ishellbulleti
Is XRS dockable for other people, my friend says he can dock it, but i cannot seem to find a way to dock it.
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XRS docks fine, it just undocks itself every time it's recreated. I'm not sure why some of you guys are having issues with Omen either. I've had it docked and behaving itself since closed beta in a vertical dock.
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02/19/08, 2:15 PM
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#60
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Von Kaiser
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I'm still waiting on someone with Omen issues to disable all addons but Omen and Dock to see if it still happens. I've had no luck reproducing it.
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02/19/08, 3:00 PM
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#61
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Soda Popinski
Docjowles
Gnome Mage
No WoW Account
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I haven't had time, hopefully tonight I will be able to try again. After the minimap crashing WoW fiasco I haven't dared play with Dock on raid night, no offense
Also, I noticed the guy above said Omen worked fine for him in a vertical dock. I was trying to put it into a horizontal dock, may or may not be significant.
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02/19/08, 3:49 PM
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#62
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Docjowles
I haven't had time, hopefully tonight I will be able to try again. After the minimap crashing WoW fiasco I haven't dared play with Dock on raid night, no offense
Also, I noticed the guy above said Omen worked fine for him in a vertical dock. I was trying to put it into a horizontal dock, may or may not be significant.
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I understand, the latest version I posted seems to have fixed the minimap btw. At least, I haven't got any reports since then.
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02/19/08, 6:05 PM
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#63
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Piston Honda
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I'll check it out after I finish my darkrune and see if I'm still having issues.
Edit: The minimap issue appears to be fixed.
Last edited by Dollar : 02/19/08 at 7:07 PM.
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"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"
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02/19/08, 6:47 PM
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#64
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Soda Popinski
Docjowles
Gnome Mage
No WoW Account
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Ok, I was able to do some more testing tonight. Sadly, the bug remains. What I did:
1) Backup all addons and WTF folder
2) Delete my current Interface and WTF folders
3) Download Dock and Omen from WoWAce
4) Start WoW, no other addons installed or running
The results with a horizontal dock are in the attached images. The first one shows Omen refusing to fit into a fairly large dock. The second shows Omen once I make the dock huge so that it fits. Same exact thing I reported in my initial post.
Interestingly, if I make the dock vertical, Omen behaves just fine. Again, I am also on a Mac, if that is significant.
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02/19/08, 7:43 PM
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#65
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Von Kaiser
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That's actually working as intended. Dock will match the height when it's horizontal oriented, you can force sizes under the advanced tab.
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02/19/08, 8:11 PM
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#66
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Soda Popinski
Docjowles
Gnome Mage
No WoW Account
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Maybe it's something specific to Omen then, but even at the absolute minimum height (minimum you can set by dragging the corner of the dock anyway) you still have to make the dock pretty damn wide before it will fit. Whereas if I make a tall but narrow vertical dock Omen will shrink right down to size. I can work with vertical docks.
Edit: I don't want to come off as argumentative here. The mod is really cool, this particular behavior just seems unintuitive. Maybe it is just odd for short-but-wide frames like Omen with no bars. Thanks for all the hard work on Dock!
Last edited by Docjowles : 02/19/08 at 8:24 PM.
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02/19/08, 8:57 PM
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#67
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Docjowles
Maybe it's something specific to Omen then, but even at the absolute minimum height (minimum you can set by dragging the corner of the dock anyway) you still have to make the dock pretty damn wide before it will fit. Whereas if I make a tall but narrow vertical dock Omen will shrink right down to size. I can work with vertical docks.
Edit: I don't want to come off as argumentative here. The mod is really cool, this particular behavior just seems unintuitive. Maybe it is just odd for short-but-wide frames like Omen with no bars. Thanks for all the hard work on Dock!
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Right, I understand that it's sort of strange. You're right it happens because of Omen's odd shape when it has no bars in it. I could set it so it could be resized smaller, but that wouldn't really solve the problem. I don't know of a better solution than forcing size under advanced.
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02/20/08, 10:47 AM
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#68
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Glass Joe
Human Rogue
Wildhammer (EU)
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Originally Posted by Docjowles
Maybe it's something specific to Omen then, but even at the absolute minimum height (minimum you can set by dragging the corner of the dock anyway) you still have to make the dock pretty damn wide before it will fit. Whereas if I make a tall but narrow vertical dock Omen will shrink right down to size. I can work with vertical docks.
Edit: I don't want to come off as argumentative here. The mod is really cool, this particular behavior just seems unintuitive. Maybe it is just odd for short-but-wide frames like Omen with no bars. Thanks for all the hard work on Dock!
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Did you try forcing the width of the docked frame in a horizontal dock? I would but, I'm at work and installing wow wouldn't go down too well!
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02/20/08, 4:14 PM
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#69
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Von Kaiser
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I cannot seem to dock XRS. It says that it will "cause taint" if I do that. Any help?
Also, what's up with it making a little, seemingly unmoveable minimap in the top right corner when you dock your big one, like in this screenshot:

Last edited by Tulani : 02/20/08 at 4:30 PM.
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02/20/08, 4:29 PM
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#70
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Piston Honda
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Yep, XRS won't dock for me either. I'll try to get a pic of BigBrother as well as I'd love to have that docked for checking consummable usage but the dock has to be as big as the BigBrother frame which kind of defeats the purpose.
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02/20/08, 4:37 PM
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#71
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Von Kaiser
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I just fooled around with it, and apparently, as soon as you make a buff button, XRS becomes undockable.
Is there any buff mod (that shows people missing buffs, that is) that IS dockable?
Last edited by Tulani : 02/20/08 at 5:01 PM.
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02/20/08, 5:31 PM
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#72
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Von Kaiser
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Kameril, not sure if this is Dock or Recount: I had recount docked, but while it was docked it did not collect any data (that really makes for some weird numbers on DPS when you initially undock it.)
A small suggestion for future use would be to open up a Fubar menu for basic creation/deletion/modification of docks (with the finer tuning being in the options menu). If that's not possible, even having a Fubar button to open up the options menu would be a nice boon.
Once again though, great addon and thanks for the effort to put it together.
Last edited by Kenera : 02/20/08 at 5:36 PM.
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I walk through walls.
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02/20/08, 5:50 PM
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#73
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Kenera
Kameril, not sure if this is Dock or Recount: I had recount docked, but while it was docked it did not collect any data (that really makes for some weird numbers on DPS when you initially undock it.)
A small suggestion for future use would be to open up a Fubar menu for basic creation/deletion/modification of docks (with the finer tuning being in the options menu). If that's not possible, even having a Fubar button to open up the options menu would be a nice boon.
Once again though, great addon and thanks for the effort to put it together.
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I have recount docked and in tabbed mode and it is working normally, maybe you have some other conflicting addon.
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"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"
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02/20/08, 6:16 PM
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#74
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Von Kaiser
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Alright, thanks Dollar. I'll go look at my recount settings to make sure that's not what's causing it, then see about isolating what the issue is (obviously not a dock problem).
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I walk through walls.
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02/20/08, 7:55 PM
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#75
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Tulani
I cannot seem to dock XRS. It says that it will "cause taint" if I do that. Any help?
Also, what's up with it making a little, seemingly unmoveable minimap in the top right corner when you dock your big one, like in this screenshot:
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Since the XRS buff button is protected (to be able to cast) docking it would cause the frame to act strangely in combat due to the system Blizzard implemented back in 2.0. You can either not use the buff button (however, changing the anchor/parent of the button may allow the base frame to dock but is more advanced) or not be able to dock XRS, unfortunately there's nothing I can do from Dock.
The minimap issue should have been solved in 0.7, have you updated to the latest?
Kenera, I'm waiting to see what sort of Ace3 alternatives to FuBar come along before I officially add anything of that sort to Dock. There's at least one project in the works.
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