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09/11/08, 5:53 AM
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#76 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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First off to the original poster I would like to know why you have dual 8800GTs on that motherboard, unless you plan on going to a 650/680/750/780/790i board you won't be using SLI ever.
First thing for me, on my system, Fraps does fine and Im recording to the drive my OS and WoW are on.
Make sure that your using the newest legal version of the application, and start off by trying to record at 30fps half resolution, trust me trying to push full 1280x1024 is very hard, I have only seen it done easily on a triple raptor 74GB raid.
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09/12/08, 4:12 AM
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#77 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Orc Shaman
Vek'nilash (EU)
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Originally Posted by Brokenwall
First off to the original poster I would like to know why you have dual 8800GTs on that motherboard, unless you plan on going to a 650/680/750/780/790i board you won't be using SLI ever.
First thing for me, on my system, Fraps does fine and Im recording to the drive my OS and WoW are on.
Make sure that your using the newest legal version of the application, and start off by trying to record at 30fps half resolution, trust me trying to push full 1280x1024 is very hard, I have only seen it done easily on a triple raptor 74GB raid.
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Full screen at 1280x1024 should be a walk in the park for any dual core machine which "should" be around the norm for most people nowadays, anything less and you'll only notice a performance hit if you have an old GPU card. Also recording to different hard drives is an old wifes tale, while it may work for Joe Bloggs that's more than likely down to system configuration or driver shortcomings. (which can be seen in the latest Catalyst 8.8's or even going back to when the Nvidia 8800 was released).
Last edited by Bluerose : 09/12/08 at 5:55 AM.
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09/12/08, 12:15 PM
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#78 (permalink)
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I am awesome.
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Originally Posted by Bluerose
Also recording to different hard drives is an old wifes tale, while it may work for Joe Bloggs that's more than likely down to system configuration or driver shortcomings. (which can be seen in the latest Catalyst 8.8's or even going back to when the Nvidia 8800 was released).
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I strongly disagree. I have a reasonable up-to-date system (Quad Core CPU, 8gig RAM, 64bit OS, 8800GTX OC2 768MB, 150gig Raptor as C: drive) and yet the performance hit when FRAPS'ing to C: is massive compared to FRAPS'ing to a dedicated drive.
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You know that you play too much WoW if you partners pants become a rare drop.
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09/12/08, 12:58 PM
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#79 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Orc Shaman
Vek'nilash (EU)
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Originally Posted by Caryna
I strongly disagree. I have a reasonable up-to-date system (Quad Core CPU, 8gig RAM, 64bit OS, 8800GTX OC2 768MB, 150gig Raptor as C: drive) and yet the performance hit when FRAPS'ing to C: is massive compared to FRAPS'ing to a dedicated drive.
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Frapsing for two years, dealing with a dozen or so other frapsers who provide me with footage and none report the same problems. Again I assert it is to do with your system configuration/ driver's.
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09/12/08, 5:30 PM
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#80 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Bluerose
Frapsing for two years, dealing with a dozen or so other frapsers who provide me with footage and none report the same problems. Again I assert it is to do with your system configuration/ driver's.
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Before I start a big arguement here, I am not saying recording to a different drive is going to always give you an increase. But the problem with FRAPS is it can only record as quick as it can write to the Drive, so recording a full 1280x1024 resolution will put most single SATA drives to the limit bandwidth. In this case a RAID array of drives will allow better bandwidth and a more constant write rate. This is what I was speaking about. It may of been a misunderstanding when you read my post.
Yes I have a Dual-Core machine and I use to record 1600x1200 at half resolution which returned a 800x600 video when I use to have a 7900gtx because I didn't have a the hard drive thoughput in order to handle the video. Now because I have upgraded to a 9800gtx I am still unable to record that full 1600x1200 though my computer is better, I am still using the three same 250GB SATA drives. There are many things that come into play when trying to record video, specially when trying to play a game at the same time on the same machine.
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09/12/08, 5:48 PM
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#81 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Orc Shaman
Vek'nilash (EU)
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Originally Posted by Brokenwall
trust me trying to push full 1280x1024 is very hard, I have only seen it done easily on a triple raptor 74GB raid.
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I guess this was the statement I was most referring too. Also with your listed spec and to the poster in between its crazy to think Fraps would be so badly optimized that you are forced to use a separate hard drive to record footage due to write bandwidth limitations. Heck even posters in this thread have proved you can fraps with great performance on machines well under or matching your specs.
Check their replies and some of the trouble shooting methods for possible causes of your problems before coming down hard on Fraps. (No I don't get paid for plugging!)
Last edited by Bluerose : 09/12/08 at 6:04 PM.
Reason: Fleshed out post.
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09/12/08, 10:43 PM
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#82 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Bluerose
I guess this was the statement I was most referring too. Also with your listed spec and to the poster in between its crazy to think Fraps would be so badly optimized that you are forced to use a separate hard drive to record footage due to write bandwidth limitations. Heck even posters in this thread have proved you can fraps with great performance on machines well under or matching your specs.
Check their replies and some of the trouble shooting methods for possible causes of your problems before coming down hard on Fraps. (No I don't get paid for plugging!)
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Really first off I don't ever remember posting my specs of my system on this forum anywhere, cause in my eyes specs of a computer system don't really change anything except how well the game plays and how pretty it looks.
I stand my ground that FRAPS and others like GameCAM have problems pushing alot of recorded data to a hard drives that can't substain a decent thoughput. Even FRAPS states that back before v2.0 that recommended you to use a 10K rpm drive in order to attempt to record 1024x768 resolution.
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09/13/08, 2:47 AM
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#83 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Orc Shaman
Vek'nilash (EU)
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No offense but ..."Dual-Core machine, 7900gtx, 9800gtx, three same 250GB SATA drives".
As for your last point about hard drive throughput...no one is arguing against this. I merely stated the specifications you and a third poster listed were more than enough for FRAPS, exemplified by posts in this thread.
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09/16/08, 10:31 AM
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#84 (permalink)
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I am awesome.
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Originally Posted by Brokenwall
Make sure that your using the newest legal version of the application, and start off by trying to record at 30fps half resolution, trust me trying to push full 1280x1024 is very hard, I have only seen it done easily on a triple raptor 74GB raid.
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1280x1024 full at 30 fps shouldn't be a problem for any less than 3 year old PC. Back in the days when Naxxramas meant progression I used to FRAPS our wipes to show how moronic people played/"danced" at Heigan and so on. The system back in those days was a 3.06GHz P4 (single core, hyper threaded) with an ATI 1950XTX graphics board and the hard discs were a far cry off raptors or raid configs (more like a good old 160gig ATA133 Seagate Medalist). If you PM me I can give you a link to some of those videos in case you don't believe me (or you just want to see 40 people from Paradigma/Terenas (EU) die in a good old fashioned way, heh).
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You know that you play too much WoW if you partners pants become a rare drop.
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09/19/08, 9:43 AM
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#85 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
Human Rogue
Forscherliga (EU)
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I have to agree with Caryna.
I fraps all my videos at 1280x1024 full resolution with 25fps (PAL here, so 30 is a waste). I record to a partition of a seperate hard disk (no wow or the OS on that HDD), the harddisk is a 500gig S-ATA from seagate.
I have no problems during raids or arena, of course my framerates goes to arround 20-24, but that is perfectly playable.
Rest of my machines specs: AMD dual core 5000+, 2gig RAM, 1600GT Radeon. So nothing fancy.
I edit my videos with sony vegas and render them with the sony version of the H.264 codec at 1024*768 most of the time.
Quality is good enough to read the guild chat and see the hitpoints of enemys.
So I cant understand what all this "You need an 10krpm harddisk, or some fancy raidsetup to record at full resolution" talking is about. Sure that might help when recording in 1600 or greater, but why stress it if 1280 gives you pretty good quality.
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09/23/08, 5:23 PM
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#86 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Thunderlord
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Below is my rig. Whenever i fraps, its so "heavy" and laggy the top corner of the number is showing 25FPS. Fraps settings is at Half-size @ 25fps.
Asus P5B-E Plus
Intel Core2duo E6400
2093 mb ddr2 RAM. ( but only using 2GB as i'm on XP 32bit )
258MB Nvidia GeForce 7900GS
250GB HDD
Using the latest Fraps version. My desktop resolution at 1280 x 768, Wow resolution at 1440 x 900. I love some help over here 
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09/23/08, 6:50 PM
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#87 (permalink)
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Co-starring: The Egg
Blood Elf Paladin
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by blecap
Below is my rig. Whenever i fraps, its so "heavy" and laggy the top corner of the number is showing 25FPS. Fraps settings is at Half-size @ 25fps.
Asus P5B-E Plus
Intel Core2duo E6400
2093 mb ddr2 RAM. ( but only using 2GB as i'm on XP 32bit )
258MB Nvidia GeForce 7900GS
250GB HDD
Using the latest Fraps version. My desktop resolution at 1280 x 768, Wow resolution at 1440 x 900. I love some help over here 
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I'm pretty sure Fraps limits your frame rate to whatever it's recording at while active. So if you've set it to record at 25 FPS, and you're getting 25 FPS, then everything is working like it should.
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