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Old 01/31/10, 10:59 PM   #126
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Just bought a new comp that is more than capable of frapsing in raids, but I've got an issue that it'll studder about once every 4-5 seconds. Then it comes out of the studder, and resumes recording at 50fps. Anyone else have that issue and get it resolved?

My computer's specs:

amd II quad core 955 @ 3.2ghz
ati radeon factory OC'd 4890 @ 950/1050
1 tb hd @ 7200rmp
8 gb ddr2

Monitor and game resolution 1920x1080

I've tried full screen windowed / full screen. vsync on and off, results aren't changing much.

Thanks in advance

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Old 02/01/10, 12:01 AM   #127
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Are you saving the video to the same drive that you are playing wow off?

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Old 02/01/10, 4:24 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by blitzseed View Post
Are you saving the video to the same drive that you are playing wow off?
Yeah, and its my only drive

Would it help if I limited certain cores in my processor to fraps/wow?

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Old 02/01/10, 1:35 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by curlyandrson View Post
Yeah, and its my only drive

Would it help if I limited certain cores in my processor to fraps/wow?
Don't know if that would help or not, you may want to look at getting a second drive for your videos like a 360-500g they don't cost alot any more less then 100$ maybe look at a Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB

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Old 02/02/10, 1:23 AM   #130
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Nevermind, problem solved.

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Old 02/21/10, 7:39 PM   #131
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hello, i need some help, can anyone tell me why Fraps saves in 3.90gb parts?

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Old 02/21/10, 11:07 PM   #132
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Originally Posted by blitzseed View Post
hello, i need some help, can anyone tell me why Fraps saves in 3.90gb parts?
A computer techie can describe this in more detail but most formatted HD's have a 4GB per file limit.

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Old 02/22/10, 12:23 AM   #133
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Originally Posted by blitzseed View Post
hello, i need some help, can anyone tell me why Fraps saves in 3.90gb parts?
The .avi files Fraps creates are limited to 4gb in order to keep compatibility with all editing software.

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Old 02/23/10, 12:08 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by Heavenly View Post
A computer techie can describe this in more detail but most formatted HD's have a 4GB per file limit.
Originally Posted by Jophess View Post
The .avi files Fraps creates are limited to 4gb in order to keep compatibility with all editing software.
For a little additional info, a normal 'windows' hard drive is often formatted in FAT32, which limits the maximum size of files (not folders mind, just files) to under 4GB. In order to be able to use larger files your hard drive will need to be formatted as NTFS, however because of the limitation on FAT32 many programs are built to automatically make sure their files don't exceed 4GB.

In this case though, it sounds as if your hard drive is indeed formatted as FAT32. In order to change this, unfortunately you are forced to erase all data from the drive. The best option may be to add another disk drive and format the new drive as NTFS.

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Old 02/23/10, 3:36 PM   #135
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Recording Speed

Any footage of WoW that I record seems like it plays back at double speed. Does this have something to do with the FPS settings? I have FRAPS set to record at 30 FPS because I heard that was the normal setting for high quality video producing.

If, for example WoW runs at 60FPS should I be recording at 60 FPS and just encode at the lower 30 FPS? Any help would be appreciated. Manually adjusting the speed setting in sony vegas movie studio is a pain

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Old 02/24/10, 10:58 AM   #136
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Sounds weird, can you screenshot your fraps settings? I'm pretty much using the standard settings and it's working fine recording at 30 fps.

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Old 02/25/10, 6:22 PM   #137
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Originally Posted by Cras View Post
Sounds weird, can you screenshot your fraps settings? I'm pretty much using the standard settings and it's working fine recording at 30 fps.


I usually have 30 FPS checked as the capture settings. Don't know why it happens only thing I could think of was it is double speed because I am playing at twice the framerate. What would be different if I recorded at 60 instead of 30?

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Old 02/25/10, 6:28 PM   #138
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Originally Posted by Dezarro View Post
I usually have 30 FPS checked as the capture settings. Don't know why it happens only thing I could think of was it is double speed because I am playing at twice the framerate. What would be different if I recorded at 60 instead of 30?
60 FPS is a much higher strain on your computer, and if you don't have a very fast hard drive you will probably notice performance decreases. If you have 30 FPS checked, when you start recording, your game should drop to 30 FPS as well. If not, there is something wrong, although I'm not sure what it would be.

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Old 02/26/10, 11:37 AM   #139
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Very weird. Yes you are correct, while having 30 FPS checked, when I press record it does indeed drop to 30 FPS in-game. Sometimes under a load while recording I'll see it dip even farther then 30.

At the end of last nights raid night, alas, I still have the same problem. The raw video footage is almost 2 x the speed recorded at. Maybe it's not a FRAPS or WoW setting, and something wrong with my PC? Until I figure it out, I'm doomed to stretching video clips individually to slow them down.

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Old 02/26/10, 3:23 PM   #140
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Has anyone had any experience with the audio from Fraps files not completely loading? It used to be that after importing the video files into Adobe Premiere, I would only get the first ~1.5 mins of audio from each clip. My solution to this was to first load the videos into VDubMod and save the audio separately, and then import that into Adobe. The problem seemed to go away on its own after awhile, however, so I stopped having to use VDubMod as an intermediary step.

Recently, though, I started using AviSynth to reduce the number of steps it took me to encode a video, and I have noticed the problem seems to have come back (so my attempt at reducing steps has an extra step added here). After ~1.5 mins the audio just goes silent.

Does anyone know a solution to this? Or even what is causing it?

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Old 03/07/10, 8:41 PM   #141
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Fraps slowdown only in arena

I'm having a problem that seems to be unique to me from what I have read however it has spanned two computers so it seems like there must be some logic behind it.

I recently got a new pc:
core i5 2.2
4gb ram
radeon 5650

I get 40-50 fps in dalaran, I've done bgs, raids, and arena at custom high settings (ultra but with no shadows) at 60fps no problem. I have fraps'd voa25 and a ~20v20 in IoC at 30fps no problem at all with no dips in fps.

When I arena, it constantly spikes down to 8-9fps. All the time. Even in 2v2 in nagrand just buffing in the starting area, 8fps. It is the only place in all of wow that does this. The only addons I use that are unique to arena are gladius and gladiminish which as far as i know are used by many, many different people who fraps arena.

I have tried just about everything in this thread, lowering resolution, tried fullscreen, recording at 20fps, recording without sound, recording at half size, putting fraps on 1 core and wow on 3, nothing seems to work. (I only have one HD however it seems pretty unlikely that this is the culprit)

Has anyone experienced a similar problem specific to arena and if so were you able to resolve it? Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

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Old 03/15/10, 8:37 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by Dezarro View Post
Recording Speed

Any footage of WoW that I record seems like it plays back at double speed. Does this have something to do with the FPS settings? I have FRAPS set to record at 30 FPS because I heard that was the normal setting for high quality video producing.

If, for example WoW runs at 60FPS should I be recording at 60 FPS and just encode at the lower 30 FPS? Any help would be appreciated. Manually adjusting the speed setting in sony vegas movie studio is a pain

Thanks
I am still having this issue, and have been searching for an answer for about a month now without any luck.

I've also discovered that while recording @ 30fps, if too many things are happening and my fps drops lower than 30 the speed of the playback increases as well. For example: Lots of AoE damage going out, or lots of adds like closer to the end of the Valithra Dreamwalker encounter.

I've read here in previous posts that recording to a seperate HDD will improve performance. My setup contains two 500gb HDD's in a RAID 0 stripe. Will an external/seperate HDD help out my problem? Any opinions/feedback/questions are welcome. I'm ready to figure this out and put it behind me.


Thanks.

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Old 03/26/10, 6:19 PM   #143
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Hi Guys!

I am realy sad about me, fraps and wow. I just bought an new System wich was ofc expensiv for me. So i tought rly a wish come true and i can make movies with about 35 FPS or more with good grafik setting.

The Problem is that:
The System often freeze. The freeze Stops when i turn off fraps. The second problem is that fraps nuke down the frame rate to 22-27 fps. My system should have rly no problem with that.

My PC an My Setting:

[bTower:[/b] SILVERSTONE Raven 2 Midi-Tower SST-RV02B-W
power supply: ATX 650 Watt, Corsair 650HX
Mainboard: Mainboard S-1156 ASUS P7P55 WS Supercomputer, ATX
Prozessor: Prozessor INTEL Core i7-860, 2,80GHz, LGA1156, Quad-Core, Boxed
Prozessorcooler: Prozessorkühler NOCTUA NH-C12P SE14
Ram: DDR3-RAM KIT 8 GB, 1600 MHz, CL8, CORSAIR Dominator
Graka: Grafikkarte PCI-E 2.1 ASUS Extreme AH5870/2DIS/1GD5, Retail, 1024MB
Harddrive: 2x Festplatte SATA-6Gb/s Western Digital Caviar Black, 1TB, 64MB Cache(Not in Raid modus)

Solution Desktop: 1680x1050
Solution WOW: 1680x1050
Fraps: I just bought the legal Version for a few days.

I turned multisampling down from 8x too 1x. I turned off Vert Sny and on. I trief the most settings without the grafic setting except from shadowqual.. I know shadow cost a lot of power so i turned dem also a bite down.

The first Hardrive a partition C whre is only win 7 installed. On the second part there are all the Datas, wow, fraps. The second Hard drive is always NTFS formatted before starting frapsing and empty.

So Guys i am finally over with my post and ofc i rly don´t know what i shall do now.

Please help me!
Sorry for my bad english, if you want to answer in german i can handle this better.

Greeting Almdudler!

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Old 03/30/10, 6:24 AM   #144
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Hi Guys!

I have solved my problem yet and want to share my experiance with you.

1.) I have changed the WTF.config and added the Text" Set Affinitymask"85". The value 85 is right for my intel core I7.
2.) After speaking to an PC Profi i turned off Hyperthreading in Bios. So i can only chose 4 cores, and set 2 for wow and 2 for fraps.
The Profi means that Hyperthreading is good, but not at all for wow. Now there was no freez anymore. I Set fraps so 40 FPS Frame rate was not locked, and pla with 35-42 fps in ICC Rotface yesterday.
Now if you have a good PC and problems with fraps and wow, may this help you.

Have a nice day

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Old 03/30/10, 4:19 PM   #145
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Read on a forum that unchecking the no-sync option (I would assume its the option to sync video-audio) clears it up. I'm unable to test at the moment but will check it out tonight.

*Edit*
Checked it last night while raiding in ICC. It does in fact work, I used to have the same problem as you Dezarro.

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Old 04/01/10, 3:33 AM   #146
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Read on a forum that unchecking the no-sync option (I would assume its the option to sync video-audio) clears it up. I'm unable to test at the moment but will check it out tonight.

*Edit*
Checked it last night while raiding in ICC. It does in fact work, I used to have the same problem as you Dezarro.
Thank you for your response, I will try this out on my next recording.

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Old 04/14/10, 7:16 PM   #147
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Hello.

I have a problem.

2,17ghz core duo
nVidia GTX260
4gig RAM
Running Vista
I play wow in 1280x800 with a refresh rate at 60hz (crappy monitor)
I have all Effects to 'Low'.
I save files to a seperate disc (a raptor disc if that matters)

And when I fraps in 25man I have ~5 FPS on fights like Marrowgar.

Help.

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Old 04/14/10, 9:14 PM   #148
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A Core Duo with 2.17GHz really isn't that great for frapsing, especially in 25man.
As an example, I wasn't able to satisfactorily fraps Sindragosa in 25man in 1920x1080 until after I overclocked my 2.66Ghz Core Duo to a massive 3.8Ghz (which surprisingly works very well with my components). And even then I'm sitting at only around 15-20 FPS. Marrowgar might also be a specifically bad fight for this, with all the blue flames lying on the floor.

Btw, 1280x800 sounds like a LCD monitor, for which 60Hz is the standard refresh rate (and the only one you need: they don't flicker).


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Old 04/14/10, 9:54 PM   #149
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I actually done some research, its something about 0 GPU load while in WoW so that the CPU handles 100%. This something to do with WoW uses an old engine that newer gfx cards dont work properly on or something. I dont know exactly why but this fixed it.

First I installed GPU-Z and had it running while starting WoW, if it shows "GPU Load 0%" regardless what I do in WoW it means you have a too good GFX card.
Then I installed EVGA Precision, lowered CORE CLOCK to minimum and that started GFX sensoring. I now have 10%-30% GPU Load depending on Effects settings and Im quite eager to see what happens during tomorrows raid.

Anyways, maybe someone more computer-wizardy can explain this more in detail and why it works.

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Old 04/15/10, 6:45 AM   #150
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When I fraps my GPU loads drops quite a bit. I can't tell you any number now, but it's certainly above 0%, and if I remember correctly it was around 30-50% when I did some tests. I've found GPU load to directly correlate with frames per second (my GPU load hits 100% when I'm at high FPS), meaning if you have only 5 FPS, you could very well sit on <10% GPU load, as the GPU basically just idles while waiting for the CPU to do stuff.

Are you now playing with a minimum core clock? If yes, that won't help your performance at all (also it might not decrease it though if your CPU is the bottleneck). WoW's performance is very CPU bound, and a GTX260 is overpowered compared to a 2.17 GHz Dual Core CPU.


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