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Old 06/13/08, 9:20 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Read fraps documentation.

Single cores cant record in resolution higher than 800*600 if i remember right.
So if you have gem res above 800*600 but lower than 1600*1200 it will record half-size 640*480. Solution is either to play 800*600 and record full size or 1600*1200 half-size
 
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Old 06/15/08, 1:16 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sorcerer View Post
Read fraps documentation.

Single cores cant record in resolution higher than 800*600 if i remember right.
So if you have gem res above 800*600 but lower than 1600*1200 it will record half-size 640*480. Solution is either to play 800*600 and record full size or 1600*1200 half-size
In lates version, you can record with higher resolutions.

FRAPS show fps, record video game movies, screen capture software

2.9.4 - 14th Jan 2008
- Added 64-bit Fraps FPS1 codec
- Added support for resolutions up to 2560x1600 on single core CPUs
- Fixed crash when recording with sound under Vista SP1
- Fixed D3D9 recording speed on x64 versions of Windows
- Fixed Windows start bug when Fraps installed in a folder with a space in the name
- Improved compatibility with 3rd party graphic utilities
 
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Old 06/24/08, 8:08 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I am planning to start using fraps soon and have 1 question. I have an old IDE 110gb drive laying around. Should I install that and have fraps write to that drive instead of my main? (even tho my main is sata)
 
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Old 06/27/08, 3:32 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I've got a quick question about WoW and Fraps .

I play on a 1680x1050 resolution , but fraps seems to have low FPS.

But i was wondering if this is due my proccesor (2.2ghz dual core amd) or my graphics card? (8800 GTS).
I'm pretty sure its not my hard disc as any SATA disc should be good enough.
Anybody have any idea where the problem could lie?

Thanks in Advance!
 
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Old 06/30/08, 3:38 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I'm not sure which of those two would be more of a bottleneck (although I'm guessing the processor, considering WoW itself is also so CPU heavy, thrown ontop of the encoding and saving to drive). However keep in mind that recording using fraps is simply very resource hungry. Dont expect anything close to what you would normally get if you werent recording.

For example, I have a Core2Duo 3.0GHz, 4gig ram, 9800GX2 and I fraps at 10-15 FPS in a raid (1680x1050, fullscreen). I fraps at around 30 out in the wilderness of Terrokar forest. I run wow at medium-ish settings. I get around 40-50 fps in Shat, and around 150 fps in the middle of nowhere. A small 5 man group runs at around 80 fps, and a raid while in combat is around 25, depending on the encounter.

I'm sorry I cant give you any direct tips, but I'm trying to say "dont expect too much" basically.
 
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Old 06/30/08, 4:27 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Ah i see , thanks for the explaination.
 
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Old 07/01/08, 7:09 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kve View Post
I've got a quick question about WoW and Fraps .

I play on a 1680x1050 resolution , but fraps seems to have low FPS.

But i was wondering if this is due my proccesor (2.2ghz dual core amd) or my graphics card? (8800 GTS).
I'm pretty sure its not my hard disc as any SATA disc should be good enough.
Anybody have any idea where the problem could lie?

Thanks in Advance!
Not-that-exact method, but it generally works, you can change your resolution incrementally, from 1680x1050 down to 640x480, if your fps rises in linear way, blame your graphics card, otherwise CPU.
 
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Old 07/17/08, 11:01 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Hi,

I'm using FRAPS since a while.
Here is my config :
Intel E8200
4Gb RAM OCZ
8800GTS320
Vista 64
HD 1, Partition 1 : OS
HD 1, Partition 2 : Destination of FRAPS VIDEO
HD 2, Partition 1 : WOW files

I configured FRAPS to record in 1680x1050 at 25image/s because :
- It's normal rate for video
- Kill a Boss takes 10 minutes (maximum before rage) and around 10-15Gb on Hard drive : More FPS = more space = more speed on Hard drive

After this, I use Avisynth + Virtual Dub + LAME (ACM) to re-compress the video.

Here are few results of my "work":
Nova Pixel VS Hydross - Fight on Vimeo
Nova Pixel@MDZ VS Jan'Alai on Vimeo
Nova Pixel@MDZ VS A'LAR on Vimeo

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Old 07/18/08, 6:25 AM   #59 (permalink)
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When using two-pass encoding with XviD, should you overwrite the first pass on the second pass or save it as a seperate file?
 
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Old 07/19/08, 8:19 PM   #60 (permalink)
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The output avi from the first pass isn't used at any point. If you're using xvid_encraw.exe you can save a small amount of time by not generating it at all, and with the VFW interface it's safe to overwrite.
 
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Old 07/24/08, 11:26 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Recently in my guild I have been trying to record some newer boss kills.

My speccs are:

Intel Q6600 2.4 Ghz Quadcore,
2 GB Ram
Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS
Vista 64bit
One 300GB sized HDD

So, as most of the people posting their problem here, I'm experiencing massive framedrops too.

I tried the trick where you dedicate core 0,1 to WoW and the others to FRAPS, that didn't work.
I don't have SLI, so that's out of the question too.
And I have the latest version of FRAPS.

I'm running at the highest settings, 1400*900.

Are there any other things I could do?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 07/24/08, 11:31 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Someone else in this thread had low FPS issues when he didn't realize there was a 64-bit version and after changing he said his problems were fixed. Are you using the 32-bit version?
 
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Old 07/24/08, 11:32 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pinchet View Post
Someone else in this thread had low FPS issues when he didn't realize there was a 64-bit version and after changing he said his problems were fixed. Are you using the 32-bit version?
I thought I had... I'll have to look around some more I guess.

edit: I checked in task manager, and I am running the 64bit version. (Task manager says: fraps64.dat)
 
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Old 07/24/08, 2:48 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I got a cheap copy of Adobe Premier Elements through my sister-in-law, who works there. I'm wondering if anyone has much experience using this as a Fraps-recording editor, and can comment on whether its worth continuing to learn how to use, or just switching to various freeware.

I've managed to figure out how to get pretty good quality WMA9 video out of it, but so far adding titles and stuff has been a real pain in the ass. Every time I try to add some fade in/out text on black at the start, it overlays it onto the start of my video. Once it does that, I can't figure out how to strip it back off, short of mashing undo a few times. Also, once I make a title item, and its displayed on the project media list, I can't figure out how to go back and edit it.

Any suggestions for finding a tutorial for typical WoW-movie-related editing in Premier Elements?
 
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Old 07/24/08, 3:36 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I really found that APE was very cumbersome to use. I didn't like it at all. I had a free version I was trying when I was deciding what program to use. Finally went with Sony Vega, I'm happy with it overall. Takes a tad of a learning to figure out all the bells and whistles, but the final product is worth it.

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Old 07/24/08, 8:17 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Fujitsi View Post
Recently in my guild I have been trying to record some newer boss kills.

My speccs are:

Intel Q6600 2.4 Ghz Quadcore,
2 GB Ram
Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS
Vista 64bit
One 300GB sized HDD

So, as most of the people posting their problem here, I'm experiencing massive framedrops too.

I tried the trick where you dedicate core 0,1 to WoW and the others to FRAPS, that didn't work.
I don't have SLI, so that's out of the question too.
And I have the latest version of FRAPS.

I'm running at the highest settings, 1400*900.

Are there any other things I could do?

Thanks in advance.

I had the same issue, also running 64bit. my fix was to switch the recording destination to another drive. it went from 60fps without fraps to 15fps while using same disk. to 60fps > 45-50 using seperate disk.

I know you mentioned you only have one drive, but maybe invest in a 2nd internal. drives are insanely cheap these days. At least here in the US.

P.S i record in 1920x1200 because anything less looks blurry.. I tried cutting it down to the half mode and its just not to my liking, although the fps drop is almost nonexistent.

Intel Q9300 2.5 Quad
Nvidia 8600 GTS
4GB of RAM
1920x1200
 
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Old 07/27/08, 8:26 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I've been pulling my hair out..

Been capturing footage in full size and the raw file comes out to be looking as it does when I play. Looks great and all. When I record in half-size however I can't make out what's beeing typed, and it's very pixelish everything (makes for shit movies ofc) - is it meant to be this way? That the picture quality decrease this much just because you lower the size? (the diffrence is huge).

Any help here would be godly.
 
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Old 07/28/08, 11:00 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kyuki View Post
is it meant to be this way? That the picture quality decrease this much just because you lower the size? (the diffrence is huge).
I'm afraid it is, yes. If you lower the resolution in WoW itself the game's rendering engine will downsize and filter all your UI elements for you (such as the font, the buttons, unit frames, etc...), using algorithms like anti-aliasing to ensure you can still read the text and make out crisp edges of UI elements.
However, due to performance limitations, FRAPS only performs a very very simplistic downscaling, most likely (without knowing the actual process, but its a pretty good bet) just taking a 2x2 pixel area and approximate it's color contents to a single pixel. You can imagine what that does to fonts / text.

So yes, if you let FRAPS do the downsizing you'll only get results like that. A possible workaround, if you can afford recording at full size, is to let your video editing software (or VirtualDub) take care of the downsizing. They usually offer much more sophisticated algorithms (Bi- or Trilinear filtering, etc), the resulting text display should be much more crisp.
 
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Old 07/28/08, 4:54 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Thanks for the informative answer seul.

I can afford to do it fullsize but it's really not going to be beautiful to watch because it'll run around 10-20FPS with some arse drops probably, and resizing my UI for a diffrent resolution will be a pita, but it looks like that will be my only option for now.

Thanks again
 
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Old 07/29/08, 3:31 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Gah... I knew it was going to come down to that. I'm running Vista64-bit. >.<
Nice! You've just solved my problem, i was almost crying after i've seen 5 FPS frapsing on my new computer as well Thanks pall !
 
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Old 08/09/08, 6:44 PM   #71 (permalink)
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When you fraps in say 40 FPS, Fraps throttles your WoW to exactly 40 FPS. Is it somehow possible to fraps in 20 FPS, but let WoW run in not 20 but 40 oder 60 FPS? I ask because I often need to fraps with a lot of FPS to ensure a smooth gameplay but that consumes too much disk space over time..
 
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Old 08/10/08, 9:23 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Seife View Post
When you fraps in say 40 FPS, Fraps throttles your WoW to exactly 40 FPS. Is it somehow possible to fraps in 20 FPS, but let WoW run in not 20 but 40 oder 60 FPS? I ask because I often need to fraps with a lot of FPS to ensure a smooth gameplay but that consumes too much disk space over time..
I haven't heard of any settings or mod that can make this happen, but if you set it to 30 your game play should be smooth as silk if you have the power and a decently clean, defragged hard drive.

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Old 08/16/08, 1:13 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Hey, I'm pretty new to fraps / virtualdub and all, so hopefully these 2 problems I'm having are simpler than I think.

First, when I try to playback the raw OR encoded (with XviD) fraps videos, it goes in super slow motion, half speed or there-around in WMP. Same with VLC although it won't play the raw ones.

Also, when I try to encode in DivX format, I get the following error :

An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'DivX'...
...writing address 00000000...
...while compressing frame 0 from 04c40020 to 03d10020 using codec "DivX® 6.8.4 Codec (2 Logical CPUs)" (w32videocodecpack.cpp:694)...
...while running thread "Processing" (thread.cpp:159).

Any idea whats going on / what to fix?
 
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Old 08/20/08, 5:38 PM   #74 (permalink)
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hi, i'm looking for an answer to my problem with fraps since 2 days and it seems some of you know fraps well :p

when i use it on wow in 1920x1200 i don't see my actions bar (like it hide ~100 pixels at the bottom) but the movie properties are width 1920 height 1200 ... so it doesn't cut it :o

this prob comes only in this resolution (1920x1080 or 1680x1050 works fine)

does anyone got an idea on what i can do ?

hardware configuration :
Q9450 (Quad 2.66Ghz)
GTX280
2x 500Gb Samsung HD
4Gb DDR3
Vista x64
 
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Old 09/11/08, 1:06 AM   #75 (permalink)
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They appear to have fixed the FRAPS / SLI bug with 2.9.5.

I just Frapsed M'uru fullscreen w/ sound at 30 fps and was getting 25-30 ingame.

System is overclocked E8400, 4 GB DDR800, 750i motherboard, dual 8800 GT, Vista Home Premium 64, and was recording onto my system drive (which I understand is bad).
 
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