What keeps you using FuBar? - Page 4

Tauftamir · 05/07/08, 10:44 AM

Fubar's Clock module always had the option to choose between "Local Time" and "Server Time".

In all the time I've played, I've gotten used to dealing with "server time" as the default display, so having Statblocks_Clock default to local time is really annoying.

I've managed to get around the problem by a very simple edit:

function SB_CLOCK:UpdateBlock()
	local db = self.db.profile
	local hour = tonumber(date("%H")) +1

Which works fine for me, but would you mind taking the trouble to add the option to choose between server or local time please Funky?

funkydude · 05/22/08, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tauftamir

Fubar's Clock module always had the option to choose between "Local Time" and "Server Time".

In all the time I've played, I've gotten used to dealing with "server time" as the default display, so having Statblocks_Clock default to local time is really annoying.

I've managed to get around the problem by a very simple edit:

function SB_CLOCK:UpdateBlock()
	local db = self.db.profile
	local hour = tonumber(date("%H")) +1

Which works fine for me, but would you mind taking the trouble to add the option to choose between server or local time please Funky?

I was thinking of a separate _ServerTime block so people can easily track both?

New on the 'block' is _BigWigs, _ClosetGnome, _Transcriptor, _BugSack & _Bartender

Abbi · 05/25/08, 1:40 PM

I just committed StatBlocks_TPS -- my first addon, and the code's mostly lifted from StatBlocks_DPS anyhow, but FWIW. It's a simple single-block readout of your current TPS as determined by Threat-2.0; I find it immensely handy to have the reminder in front of my face while I'm tanking. Under 1000? Work harder, gnome!

Suggestions are certainly appreciated. I'll note that I didn't include an option to turn it on when soloing in an attempt to stick to the StatBlocks minimalism philosophy.

Crytz · 05/30/08, 3:48 PM

What I would very much like to see is an option to show the Ranged Stats block only when in combat. I only display my ranged attack speed, and I only need to see it during combat. It's near the middle of my screen, nestled in between CooldownTimers2 bars, Nudge, Omen, and Pitbull frames which are all only visible in combat, so when I'm just sitting around in Shat it's the only thing visible and looks pretty out of place.

funkydude · 06/01/08, 8:23 PM

Currently in development is StatBlocks_Folks by Wattw which shows online friends/guild and also a tooltip with extra info.

Originally Posted by Abbi

I just committed StatBlocks_TPS -- my first addon, and the code's mostly lifted from StatBlocks_DPS anyhow, but FWIW. It's a simple single-block readout of your current TPS as determined by Threat-2.0; I find it immensely handy to have the reminder in front of my face while I'm tanking. Under 1000? Work harder, gnome!

Suggestions are certainly appreciated. I'll note that I didn't include an option to turn it on when soloing in an attempt to stick to the StatBlocks minimalism philosophy.

Sweet! I was going to take it further and make a StatBlocks_Threat as a simple alternative to Omen showing top 3 threat on target. I really don't have the time though, you can steal the idea if you wish. ^^

Originally Posted by Crytz

What I would very much like to see is an option to show the Ranged Stats block only when in combat. I only display my ranged attack speed, and I only need to see it during combat. It's near the middle of my screen, nestled in between CooldownTimers2 bars, Nudge, Omen, and Pitbull frames which are all only visible in combat, so when I'm just sitting around in Shat it's the only thing visible and looks pretty out of place.

This is up to Silverstorm as it's hes block.

Andrast · 06/02/08, 1:25 AM

Originally Posted by funkydude

Sweet! I was going to take it further and make a StatBlocks_Threat as a simple alternative to Omen showing top 3 threat on target. I really don't have the time though, you can steal the idea if you wish. ^^

Is it possible to create a statblock showing where you are in comparison with the current aggro holder? This would be almost a replacement for the drag out bars which we lost with 2.4 and in my opinion extremely useful. The only downside is that it would obviously spike when a mob/boss randomly targets a raid member but omen already does this with the sound warnings anyway.

I would assume you could almost create this with the Dogtag stat block but a hard coded one to perform this function would be superior in my opinion.

Abbi · 06/02/08, 11:45 AM

I will contemplate both those threat-related ideas. Shouldn't be too hard.

Kyth · 06/04/08, 3:41 AM

Originally Posted by Andrast

Is it possible to create a statblock showing where you are in comparison with the current aggro holder? This would be almost a replacement for the drag out bars which we lost with 2.4 and in my opinion extremely useful. The only downside is that it would obviously spike when a mob/boss randomly targets a raid member but omen already does this with the sound warnings anyway.

I would assume you could almost create this with the Dogtag stat block but a hard coded one to perform this function would be superior in my opinion.

It's not a StatBlock, but you should check out MyThreat (it's on wowace) which does what you're asking.

MyThreat (concise threat display) - Fusion has an old screenshot and some information from the author (who is Untold Prophecy, not Fusion, I just only have a link to my post on Fusion's boards. I know that thread says Threat 1.0, but it has been updated for 2.0, I use it.)

Andrast · 06/04/08, 5:06 AM

Originally Posted by Kyth

It's not a StatBlock, but you should check out MyThreat (it's on wowace) which does what you're asking.

MyThreat (concise threat display) - Fusion has an old screenshot and some information from the author (who is Untold Prophecy, not Fusion, I just only have a link to my post on Fusion's boards. I know that thread says Threat 1.0, but it has been updated for 2.0, I use it.)

Looks interesting and exactly what I had envisaged for a statblock. I play a resto shaman so normally I don't care about my threat but assuming a statblock doesn't get created I'll certainly look into it when I spec enhance or ele.

Bohemienne · 06/05/08, 4:36 PM

I like the Healer block all right, but one showing FSR information similar to RegenFu would be fantastic.

♦ pewsey · 06/06/08, 3:46 AM

Originally Posted by Andrast

Looks interesting and exactly what I had envisaged for a statblock. I play a resto shaman so normally I don't care about my threat but assuming a statblock doesn't get created I'll certainly look into it when I spec enhance or ele.

MyThreat is amazingly wonderful. I have it positioned by my right foot, and you can change the number sizes (and the font from memory).

It allow me to have my threat information, in a concise form, in the middle of the screen so I know what Threat-2.0 thinks my threat currently is.

Theandrin · 06/10/08, 12:44 PM

I use it mainly for restfu friendfu guildfu and moneyfu other then that id be open to try anyhting else..titan is awesome for its stat bonus button to show how many points in each attribute

Vranx · 06/10/08, 2:37 PM

I still use FuBar because it hides until mouseover which keeps my screen uncluttered. I also like CraftTimersFu.

funkydude · 06/11/08, 4:37 AM

Ok, it's been quite a while since I originally asked the first question and SB and come extremely far since then, just wanted to thank you all, since I think I'll be finally nearing some kind of stable release. Apart from auto hiding of config blocks, is there anything else major guys you would like to see? I think the main thing is just extra blocks? Which is mostly a time thing.

Kaataa · 06/11/08, 10:05 AM

#1 for me because I cant stand the regular version of it is
- VampwatchFu
Others I use:
DurabilityFu
MoneyFu
ankhTimerFu
ClockFu
MicromenuFu
ItemrackFu
LocationFu
Bugsack
Yata - always changing my shamans totems
Bartender
mailFu

There are a few more too, just cant think of them off hand.
With FuBar you can eliminate 99% of your mini map buttons. Although there are a few it does not grab that I use, like DBM and trinket menu.

funkydude · 07/05/08, 11:13 PM

I'm currently working on StatBlocks2 using LibDataBroker in branches, for the user it won't mean much of a difference, the goal is you have your plugin but you select your display method. (StatBlocks, FuBar, etc)

The branch is here for anyone interested
Revision 77872: /branches/StatBlocks

An example of how small a block can now become
http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branche...cks_2_Zone.lua
Compared to the old
http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/S...s_ZoneText.lua

Don't expect it any time soon though, StatBlocks dev is paused apart from bug reports.

The name isn't final

Gearknight · 07/06/08, 1:13 PM

I'm now using both statblocks and fubar. Statblocks because it allows me to customize the font and color of various displays to make them look good, and fubar because some stuff isn't statblockable [yet?]: oRA2, the interface options button, big brother, loggerhead, battlegroundfu (which is a complete replacement for the BG minimap button - I don't believe any of the pvp related statblocks can do this), and outfitterFu.

Also, I really wish the tooltip of Statblock-Folks was better formatted, a la FriendFu/GuildFu. An option to separate friends and guild into 2 separate blocks would be great too.

Loot · 07/06/08, 7:12 PM

Nice topic, for some reason I have missed it so now too late I guess but lets take a chance. I'm statblocks user for like a month. I went away from fubar to reclaim the lost space of my monitor, and generally trying to switch everything to ace3. Statblocks will, however not attract many people because:
- default bars are plain ugly :p
- there is no aligning whatsoever, they all show up one ontop another in the screen center
- modifying blocks look is horrible task - you can alter the font globally, but sadly this does nothing to the white area. The said white area is fixed and not dependant on the content, as a result, either some huge space is wasted or have to overlap boxes(even more ugly) or mass increase the font so it fits somewhat the box and then block by block downsize them
- the said configuration madness is mutiplied by the characters you have, as blocks are not using the "default" profile by default, even tho this is the common case and very rarely some block needs to be different between characters.

That said, few suggestions:
- make statblocks container where you can align the stuff, it can very well be invisible, have some texture/alpha
- give blocks ability to align left or right (fubar style)
- give blocks ability to resize based on the content size or at least - configurable width

I mean, when you play around with statblocks a bit it works perfectly, but the picture with overlapping boxes (because the box is simply way too big than the content and I need the box not 0 alpha so I can easier read the values) is for no screenshot :P

funkydude · 07/06/08, 11:50 PM

Did you spend 1 second configuring it?

Alpha exists, blocks can be resized with the mouse wheel, as per the BIG message you clearly missed printed in chat, alignment has been there forever already, not sure what you're post is about but it baffled me.

Anyway, statblocks2 is out on trunk known as "StatBlockCore", currently with only 3 plugins "StatBlock_*" (no "s")

The noticeable improvements are parenting and strata options. Also try out the FuBar2Broker addon and see what happens.

You can use both 1 and 2 side by side, but 2 is obviously it's future replacement, disconnecting the blocks from the display addon, meaning:

The info addons can be made much smaller
You don't *have* to use StatBlockCore to display info from StatBlock_* plugins, if there is another display addon compatible with LibDataBroker, you can choose to use that instead.

Sichosis · 07/07/08, 8:31 AM

The dropdown menu for addon options. I always forget the / commands for each addon.

Loot · 07/07/08, 8:51 AM

Thanks for the info funkydude, will try the new one if I'm alive after today's raid

Frankly, there is not more than 1% chance to see message in chat buried between trade channel spam (dirge anyone?) and the over 50-60 other addons I have

And yeah, as I like statblocks, I spent more than 1 sec configuring. Actually spent a bit more - first I rearranged all the blocks manually for 1 of the chars, configured the fonts and stuff including functionality and started playing, just to find out that all blocks are using per character profile by default when I logged on another char. For 2nd char I just dropped all blocks at random place, so I can see them, later manually went and set up on every char every block to use "Default" profile and re-setupped all the blocks using the default profile. So yeah, quite more than 1 sec :p

Dromedary · 07/08/08, 2:39 AM

i'll try and make an attempt at answering your questions and going a step further to delve into things you seem to care about but did not ask.

i use fubar because it's configurable, i can put as many or as little on the screen as i like, i can change the colors/textures/alpha of it as well. i like it because i can make it very small and minimal in order to do what i want to do. i like it because so many addons support it and i can quickly and easily move things around on it. i like it because i HATE minimap clutter. i think blizzard clutters your minimap too much as it is, when you start getting addon clutter it just gets that much worse. i like fubar because it uses the wowace library so therefore has less of a memory footprint (well, depending on how you look at it but whatever you get the point). i like fubar because i can move it out of the way if it's covering something.

what i wish fubar had... a way to manipulate all minimap icons. afterall, fubar essentially is a replacement for most minimap icons with the added bonus of being able to display more data more readily. i wish fubar had a way to quickly and easily show/hide icon sets, such as opening a box of 10 icons that i never use. or perhaps opening a box, or area or whatever which would allow you to access icons of a certain type. another similar desire would be for it to have the ability to have a different makeup for different functions (soloing, pvp, and raiding, for instance) and to get fancy the ability to detect which mode it should be in automatically. generally, fubar does meet most of my needs. i would prefer it if it were even less resource intensive and it would be great if it didn't have its oddities as well, but there is no huge compelling reason for me to ditch it at the moment. that said, i'm the type of person who has NEVER believed in the saying 'don't fix what isn't broken', so i'm definitely open to trying new things and alternatives.

edit: nearly forgot my biggest wish for fubar. i'd _really_ like to have the ability to make my own 'plugs' for it easily without much effort. for example, one could use the system mirc used for right click menus to implement such a thing. it should be rather self explanatory.

SomeAddon
.options1
..options1 sub item 1:/command goes here
..options1 sub item 2:/whatever you like to put here
.options2
-
.command:/command here

i hope this explains it well enough. it would look like a right click menu, someaddon as the main title (like on fubar would be named "SomeAddon", and that would be the text you would click). options1 would open up a new menu with options1 sub item 1 and 2 in it, options2 would do nothing at all, - would be either a bar break or just a space break between the sets, and command would do /command here.

i hope i haven't confused too much, and further i hope that what i'm talking about is even somewhat feasable. i don't know anything about addon creation, i've never used lua, so i have no clue of its limitations.

funkydude · 07/11/08, 11:43 PM

StatBlockCore (StatBlocks v2) is now out on WoWI:
WoWInterface Downloads : Data Broker : StatBlockCore

With some various plugins:
WoWInterface Downloads : Data Broker

Note: All the plugins there will work with SBC, the name doesn't matter. Also, until SB1 blocks are converted to SBC, you can use both with no problems.

For those of you feeling adventurous you can grab the FuBar2Broker hack:
http://files.wowace.com/FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.zip
Which should convert FuBar plugins into LDB ones for SBC to capture.

baghwan2 · 07/12/08, 4:26 AM

I auto hide my FuBar something I couldn't find in StatBlocks, I might be blind to it.

I tested the FuBar2Broker as well, it picked up most of my FuBar addons but some were not there or didn't work, BankStack is one I remember, ElkBuffBars options wouldn't drop down.

funkydude · 07/12/08, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by baghwan2

I auto hide my FuBar something I couldn't find in StatBlocks, I might be blind to it.

I tested the FuBar2Broker as well, it picked up most of my FuBar addons but some were not there or didn't work, BankStack is one I remember, ElkBuffBars options wouldn't drop down.

Good idea! The latest version of StatBlockCore now has object alpha and mouseover alpha options. These can be used generally for tweaking, or you can use it as a "show on mouseover" by setting object alpha to 0 and mouseover alpha to 1.

As to FuBar2Broker, it is still being tweaked and there are bugs. But for most plugins it should work ok.