Great addons that aren't Ace? - Page 2

Qrt · 04/18/08, 9:09 AM

Anything from Fizzwidget - especially the Hunter's Helper. Not only does it provide you with a vastly improved UI to help train your pet, it also shows you what learnable skills a given mob can provide - even the ability to browse zones for mobs with usable skills.

evilhacker · 04/18/08, 10:30 AM

I'm a big fan of Forte Warlock (Forte Gaming / Forte Warlock/Class Addon)

It's a collection of warlock specific addons like cooldown monitoring, summoning, debuff monitoring and healthstone management. The summoning applet alone makes this addon worth downloading because it provides you with a dynamic list of raid members based on range and you can summon them in 2 clicks.

The consolidated cooldown bar is pretty cool and saves a decent amount of real estate.

Another set of non-ace mods I use is smartbuff/smartdebuff (WoWInterface Downloads : Buff/Debuff/Spell Mods : SmartBuff). Although I'm not a buffing class, when you have to give a 10 man detect invis every 10 minutes, it's nice to have an addon apply it for you with a simple scroll wheel. I've tried a bunch of different debuffing mods but none of them seem to handle the felhunter as well as smartdebuff does.

I'm also running dash (WoWInterface Downloads : Beta-version Interfaces : Dash) to hide non-essential windows (combatlogs and meters mostly).

Like others have mentioned - oTweaks, OmniCC, and Itemrack are all great.

Zophos · 04/18/08, 11:06 AM

As far as non-Ace bar mods go, I've been using a mod called LunarSphere for several months now. What Cryolysis and Necrosis did for specific classes, LunarSphere has extended for all classes, with support for things like stances (e.g. forms for druids) and "largest" items, such as strongest mana gems, strongest mana potions, and so on. (I don't do it justice with those examples, but those come to mind while at work, being a mage.) It's highly customizable, very user-friendly, and pretty intuitive. I don't follow this forum as much as the Public Discussion forum, but I have never seen a lot of talk about it in my perusals. Nonetheless, you can find a link to their forums and subsequent support here. If you click on the link to our guild's website, you can see my UI in various fashions with the LunarSphere base.

Sort · 04/18/08, 12:43 PM

Debuff Filter -- I wish there was an ace equiv this mod rox esp with omniCC
BindPad -- the simplicity is not matched by the other ace mods that try to do key binding, bind pad does it better imo
ForteWarlock -- I used this for a while and i belive its verry nice. Esp if all the raid locks are running it. Imo the best lock mod out there.

these have already been stated but ill put them ther anyhow
DoTimer -- Again just the best dot/hot tracker out there IMO.
OmniCC -- simple and effective cooldown counts
MSBT -- I belive this is or was ace.. if its not anymore i wonder why ? didn't mik do alot of ace work ?

Edit: bleh someone posted forte warlock b4 me

Ishamaell · 04/18/08, 2:17 PM

Originally Posted by evilhacker

The consolidated cooldown bar is pretty cool and saves a decent amount of real estate.

Is there a non-warlock addon that does this? That is seriously the best idea for a cooldown tracker I have ever seen. The logarithmic scale alone makes me want to learn how to code just to reproduce that.

Nisu · 04/18/08, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ishamaell

Is there a non-warlock addon that does this? That is seriously the best idea for a cooldown tracker I have ever seen. The logarithmic scale alone makes me want to learn how to code just to reproduce that.

The cooldown tracker works with all classes - I just installed it and tested. I may have a new favorite cooldown addon.

edit: after playing with it a bit, it's freaking amazing. Only thing I miss is actual numbers on the cooldown icons without hovering over them, but that's a minor quibble. Customizable bar appearance, easy options for ignoring spells... it's awesome.

shabee · 04/18/08, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by evilhacker

Like others have mentioned - oTweaks, OmniCC, and Itemrack are all great.

IIRC, ItemRack was not being updated consistently. I switched to an addon called Outfitter, and can not be happier with it.

(I tried ClosetGnome, didn't like it.)

Ishamaell · 04/18/08, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by Nisu

The cooldown tracker works with all classes - I just installed it and tested. I may have a new favorite cooldown addon.

edit: after playing with it a bit, it's freaking amazing. Only thing I miss is actual numbers on the cooldown icons without hovering over them, but that's a minor quibble. Customizable bar appearance, easy options for ignoring spells... it's awesome.

Can you disable the rest of the addon while keeping the cooldown tracker active?

Northerner · 04/18/08, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sort

MSBT -- I belive this is or was ace.. if its not anymore i wonder why ? didn't mik do alot of ace work ?

Miko believes that he can keep the mod more lightweight and efficient in and of itself by avoiding the libraries. MSBT has never been Ace and I doubt it ever will be migrated. At the risk of speaking for him, it isn't any dislike for Ace but more of a design purity issue.

For what it is worth, I agree with him from a design standpoint but efficiency just isn't such a great concern to me anymore and I do like being able to use WAU for updates. MSBT is one of the few add-ons that I maintain outside of the framework.

Nisu · 04/18/08, 8:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ishamaell

Can you disable the rest of the addon while keeping the cooldown tracker active?

Yeah - just need to load the core and cooldown modules.

Rerolled · 04/18/08, 8:54 PM

Geist (WoWInterface Downloads : Action Bar Mods : Geist) is a super-lightweight mod that pops up an cluster of action buttons around your mouse cursor when you press a hotkey. Great for people like me who are obsessive about having as few action buttons on screen as possible,

nataku · 04/18/08, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ishamaell

Is there a non-warlock addon that does this? That is seriously the best idea for a cooldown tracker I have ever seen. The logarithmic scale alone makes me want to learn how to code just to reproduce that.

I use it with my shadow priest and for my shaman alt. It tracks all cooldowns well.

The spelltimer portion of the mod might not work with all classes, but the author included spriest dots for tracking so I've started using it instead of DoTimer as well. It's a really nice suite of mods.

Camaris · 04/19/08, 5:24 AM

JIM's Cooldown Pulse. It hasn't been updated, but it still works (for me at least, there are some minor bugs for other people apparently). What it does is briefly flash oversized icons in the middle of your screen when abilities come out of cooldown. It's very subtle, and combined with something like OmniCC, gives me enough hinting without placing an extra bar on my screen. It may be too little for caster classes, but for me as a paladin it's quite enough.

Fishing Buddy. Maybe there are other fishing addons out there, but this one allows you to double-right-click to cast your line, and auto-applies lures. It also tracks fishes. Fishing sucks, but this makes it slightly less sucky.

Bagnon. I've tried lots of complicated inventory addons, but this one just works. It's all-in-one-bag, with a bank and alt character cache. It also displays total stock in tooltips, and has a search bar. You can also hide specific bags (keyrings, gem bags, whatever) from the all-in-one view. It's good enough for me.

Bindpad. It's a thing to helps to assign keybinds to macros, spells, things. That's it.

MonkeyQuest. Oh my. I've been using this since the level 30s back in 2005. I can't live without it. Blizzard's quest tracker has nothing on the original. It has no fancy shiny things, it just tracks objectives in a neat way.

♦ Praetorian · 04/19/08, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Camaris

JIM's Cooldown Pulse. It hasn't been updated, but it still works (for me at least, there are some minor bugs for other people apparently). What it does is briefly flash oversized icons in the middle of your screen when abilities come out of cooldown. It's very subtle, and combined with something like OmniCC, gives me enough hinting without placing an extra bar on my screen. It may be too little for caster classes, but for me as a paladin it's quite enough.

The Ace mod CooldownTimers2 does exactly this, for what it's worth.

syeren · 04/19/08, 12:44 PM

Although I guess to some extent it is Ace'd, WoWInterface Downloads : Ace: Combat : Ghost: Pulse is the clear replacement for Jim's Cooldown Pulse / CooldownTimers2. The sheer amount of options is great.

dinesh · 04/19/08, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Sort

MSBT -- I belive this is or was ace.. if its not anymore i wonder why ? didn't mik do alot of ace work ?

To briefly answer your aside, this is a different Mikk.

Gngsk · 04/19/08, 6:21 PM

Originally Posted by Northerner

Miko believes that he can keep the mod more lightweight and efficient in and of itself by avoiding the libraries. MSBT has never been Ace and I doubt it ever will be migrated. At the risk of speaking for him, it isn't any dislike for Ace but more of a design purity issue.

For what it is worth, I agree with him from a design standpoint but efficiency just isn't such a great concern to me anymore and I do like being able to use WAU for updates. MSBT is one of the few add-ons that I maintain outside of the framework.

From #wowace@freenode:

[18:20:18] <Gngsk> ~mikk
[18:20:19] <purl> i heard mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He likes fiddling with central libraries. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied.

This should clear things up a bit.

dill · 04/20/08, 9:34 AM

PowerAuras addon is still much more usable than Ace2 Avion

saulhudson · 04/20/08, 1:07 PM

teksloot

Pagarth · 04/20/08, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by saulhudson

teksloot

Originally Posted by Praetorian

This thread could be good but it kind of sucks.

Can people actually, you know, explain what these addons do, and why they fill a niche Ace mods currently do not, or are otherwise superior to their Ace counterparts, and so forth? Just listing names of mods is worthless.

Can you please explain why teksloot is good, what it is, etc?

Gngsk · 04/21/08, 2:16 AM

Originally Posted by Pagarth

Can you please explain why teksloot is good, what it is, etc?

teksLoot is basically a stripped down version of xLoot's GroupLootFrames. It replaces the frames you use to roll on loot while in a party/raid. Like all of Tekkub's addons it's small/sleek and does what it's meant to do and not much else. You can find it over at Tekkub's Site.

Edit: To be clear it doesn't provide all the functionality of xLoot, just the same layout for the loot roll frames.

Anias · 04/21/08, 8:32 PM

Does it actually replace all the functionality of xloot or just xloot group frames?

Led ++ · 04/22/08, 7:25 AM

What else does XlootGroup do?

I just makes a bar with need/greed/pass and a timer, 99% the same as XLootGroup.

Tisha · 04/22/08, 2:13 PM

Originally Posted by dill

PowerAuras addon is still much more usable than Ace2 Avion

I absolutely love power auras

Looks like someone else has picked up development of it as of 2.4 here:
WoWInterface Downloads : Buff/Debuff/Spell Mods : Power Auras Classic

sarf · 04/23/08, 3:30 AM

Due to the MSBT post, I'm reposting about jWoWUpdater - it handles WoW Interface, Curse and WoW UI as well, which allows me to auto update all my addons except Forte and GuildEventManager2.

To keep on-topic, GuildEventManager2 is awesome for coordinating inter-guild events ingame (such as for alliances or for that matter just allow a few non-guilded mates to create a calendar). It mostly just works - you do need to configure it to use a specific chat channel - and is very good for coordinating non-progression content and for those guilds that do not want to go to the hassle of setting up external signups / webpages.