Your cooldowns.. natur, antagonist, afflicted2, etc.

Mine.. chronometer, classtimers, dotimer, etc.

That's great but where are the addons that handle both? I'm currently using afflicted2 and dotimer because MY shit and YOUR shit are equally important.

I've already read through the obvious threads related to this and 20% of such threads are comprised of people complaining that they need to use 2-3 addons or more just to handle <situation X> which is unacceptable to me, and apparently to others.

Why in the hell doesn't afflicted or natur or ANYthing track cooldowns on both sides of the fence? If such an addon exists or if there's the possibility of adding personal timer tracking for cooldowns/stuns/etc to an existing addon, then who do I have to paypal to make it happen?

I need to know how long until that warrior can burn recklessness again. How long until that warlock can deathcoil me again. How long until my cheapshot expires. How long until my crippling poison expires. And so on.

But why do I need 17 fucking addons to handle it all?

Incidentally, I'm aware that natur is very indisposed currently and I've dropped it in favor of other things. DR tracking, however, is of paramount importance in arena and just further shores up my case for the need of an addon that handles all of these various important tasks.

I'm always surprised why people cry about the fact that free addons don't do what they need. If you're that interested in something that tracks both, write your own addon. On a more technical note, the likely reason that there is no addon yet which tracks both personal and opponent cooldowns is because, while thematically similar, implementation is vastly different. Tracking personal cooldowns is done by getting information from the client, and is fairly easy. Tracking opponent cooldowns, on the other hand, requires parsing the combat log, or looking at target buffs, or your debuffs, or similar things. It's a whole tuckfon more complicated.

The reason your bar disappears is because your client doesn't have access to time remaining on debuffs placed on your target by something else.

This can be easily done by configuring the target's debuff bar, with ElkBuffBars.

For example, if I have imp demo shout or imp thunderclap, when I put them onto the tank's targets, they will overwrite the existing "non-talented" debuffs, and also drawn with different colors so you will know when they expire.

The main feature I miss from pre-2.4 NECB is tracking PvE-related cooldowns of my raid members. It doesn't seem to work with any reliability anymore. oRA2 provdes some of what I want, but it is far from ideal. Firstly, it doesn't show heroism, which is often what I am most interested in knowing about. Secondly, it is either all or nothing. With NECB I could click on the individual raider I cared about to see his cooldown timer. With oRA2 it is a big block of bars taking up valuable screen space.

ClassTimers has been perfect for the "my cooldowns" half of the equation. But for raid leading, I sorely miss the "your cooldowns" part. The available "your cooldowns" mods all seem focused on PvP. As a raid leader I couldn't care less about someone's Escape Artist cooldown, and all the cooldown mods seem to show those instead of stuff like Battle Rez/Soulstone/Heroism.

Consider that my salaried paid time is worth $40/hour and an addon like this is an easy 20-30 hours of work after development, testing, QA, documentation, and distribution are all said and done.

If you're seriously willing to cough up $1200+ for an addon, then a) I'm in the wrong business, and b) we need to talk. :P

I think RBM will do this for people that also have the RBM add-on. The wowace site seems to be down or I'd link the page for it.

RBM does look interesting, however it looks as though it doesn't support enemy cooldowns and Diminishing Returns at all. So it's still just another mod to add to the list of the original post, however it does combine a few of them.

If you feal adventerous, give CDCount a try (yes, shameless self promotion): CDCount | World of Warcraft Addons | World of Warcraft @ Curse.com.

Just set the "track others" feature to "*:Heroism:600" and you should get timer bars for all shamans in the raid, who are in comat log range. If you just want the timer for your Shaman replace the asterix with his name.

Might be possible to use this to see Drums cooldowns as well (enable the debug mode and check if the drums produce a debug message).

I don't understand - the two addons do completely different things - why combine them? What do you hope to gain?

Pick the best one to perform each function, install it, configure it, and move on. Is it really all that difficult to install and configure two addons instead of one?

Edit: Nevermind.

I'm looking for a cooldown timer at the moment, showing things like Icon of the Silver Crescent and Inner Focus - none that I get seem to work, ideally they will be as customisable as possible.

And to the OP, I agree - Imo class timers is the best DoTimer out there so it should have a plugin for Cooldown timers and enemy Cooldowns too. Just imo though..