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Old 10/16/08, 6:24 AM   #51
Levva
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Originally Posted by Gavain View Post
FelNova is just finde for us older folks...but if you find anything more louder, explosive or AC/DC-like, I´ll take it
Hehe, get SharedMedia addon and you can add any .wav file you like. So if you have a favourite AC/DC soundbite you can rip it save as .wav and install it with SharedMedia and suddenly you have the option to have your MW play a rock track at 5 stacks!!!

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Old 10/16/08, 7:20 AM   #52
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A few more thoughts/ideas...but as said before it is fine just as it is already !

- movable bars
It may be a nice option to drag&drop every bar for itself, not as a complete box. That said, also to flip the bars so you could place it vertically/horizontally might be nice in terms of customizing.

- attention-box
So we use LB with MW-stacks, SS, ES, LL with priority list, for whatever is out of cd. This "forces" you to watch your CD´s on your UI, or place your bars somewhere to watch. Either way it keeps your eyes from the center of attention. Thats one reason I use a HUD and I would normally place your box with bars somewhere at the border, because of the space they need.
So in addition to your bars there might be a nice idea to use an attention-box which shows the Icon of SS,LL, ES whenever they go off cd. Don´t know if you ever played LotRO - like the group-maneuver box there.

Staying invisible out of combat so you can place it somwhere in the center, nothing more than moveable icons for SS,LL,ES (and maybe LB when 5 stacks MW are up) that only show up when they are off cd in combat. I could place them in my HUD like combo-points or around my health bar...you get the idea I think. They should be moveable per drag&drop and you should be able to change the size. Wouldn´t bother with background either, just the pure Icons of our priority tools.

I myself have no idea how difficult it is to generate such things...so, just some input of ideas, nothing more...it´s already fine in its current state

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Old 10/16/08, 9:10 AM   #53
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A priority box is a good idea. I was looking to tidy up the icons that suggested priorities before. Now all the changes no longer make FS or LvB viable suggesting these is not longer appropriate and have been disabled (apart from FS I think).

Changing these to simply an option to put an icon on the bar for those who forget which bar is which might be better. Then implementing a separate priority frame that showed a resizable icon for what the suggested priority should be. This could easily be tied to the firing of the GCD. So that as soon as we are in GCD it updates the priority ready for the next ability.

The ability to move bars independently and/or making them vertical is a lot of additional work, whilst its a nice extra customisation it doesn't really add much to the usability of the addon so I'd put that fairly low down the list. I score higher features that enhance our ease of use and also those that are easier to code

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Old 10/16/08, 9:37 AM   #54
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thx for the response...moveable bars would really just be some icing on the cake.

But to have a hidden box, which pops up the icons of our priority-spells when they come out of cd in combat would be really a cool feature...and that it even sorts out the highest priority as you described would be great...so I would just need a tiny space somwhere in the center where the current ability-icon which is off cd pops up.

Maybe you can add a priority setup, so everybody can definate his own priorites for the box...and include LB connected to 5 stacks MW.

That would make it really easy to keep track of your cooldowns and highest prority ability...if you can ever make that work...I bake you a chocolat-cake

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Old 10/16/08, 10:38 AM   #55
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Originally Posted by Levva View Post
Thanks for bug report. Yup that's a simple typo, will fix for v3.00. I can look at adding an explicit hide out of combat option. For now have you tried turning off the shield bar when its up? The shield bar should be the only one that displays out of combat, unless you leave combat with 5 MW and leave it hanging around warning you for 30 seconds!!
The shield bar is not a big deal to me it's the MW, especially with sounds.

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Old 10/16/08, 12:04 PM   #56
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MW sound suggestion: the sound made when applying a major glyph.

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Old 10/16/08, 12:10 PM   #57
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I used ShockAndAwe last night in sunwell, I am in love. Great mod! The sound announce of MW is awesome and keeps me from staring at bars.

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Old 10/16/08, 3:22 PM   #58
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The error was occurring for me in 2.93. I haven't checked to see if it still occurs in 3.

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Old 10/16/08, 8:43 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Sagus View Post
One glitch I've found is that when I'm duoing with my girlfriend's enh shammy, if she Stormstrikes, then I stormstrike, the stormstrike bar shows up for a split second then disappears.
I read this evening that there appears to be a bug in live where two Enh Shammys side by side seem to be refreshing each others SS regardless of addons. I've been too busy with ShockAndAwe to confirm this. Can you check and instead of looking at ShockAndAwe look at the debuff on your target and see if you are refreshing each others SS debuffs.

This weird behaviour should show up in the combat log too so try a /combatlog to start it test it out then /combatlog again - log out of game to save the file to disk and check your logs directory to see what the combat log saved. This test will help Blizzard fix the bug too.

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Old 10/16/08, 8:47 PM   #60
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Updated version to v3.01

Change log is :

Version 3.00
Remove Lava Burst bar
Tidy up command line config menus and add a help message to direct to Blizzard config options
Clarified how scaling works by updating help message
Fixed typo in setting bar textures
Split options, uptime & stats off into separate lua files for easier maintenance
Add support for recording WF & SS total dmg and displaying in Scrolling Combat Text (if installed)

Version 3.01
Fixed sparkpoint for gcdbar being wrong place if bar width changed
Fix width of bar frame when bar width changed

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Old 10/16/08, 10:54 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Levva View Post
I read this evening that there appears to be a bug in live where two Enh Shammys side by side seem to be refreshing each others SS regardless of addons. I've been too busy with ShockAndAwe to confirm this. Can you check and instead of looking at ShockAndAwe look at the debuff on your target and see if you are refreshing each others SS debuffs.

This weird behaviour should show up in the combat log too so try a /combatlog to start it test it out then /combatlog again - log out of game to save the file to disk and check your logs directory to see what the combat log saved. This test will help Blizzard fix the bug too.
Will do, just need to finish a German paper first.

Edit:
Ok, I had her go up to a mob, Stormstrike it, then use Earth Shock, leaving the mob with 2 charges (we only have 1 into imp SS so far, so it has 3 total). I went up, Stormstriked it and the bar flashed, and the debuff showed 3 charges. When I stormstrike first, the bar stays up as expected, and her stormstrike resets the charges to 3.

I noticed one thing though, after trying it again. The bug (bug being the stormstrike bar not showing up, SS itself appears to be working fine as far as I can tell, unless you meant there's supposed to be 2 SS debuffs, one for each of us) only occurs if I use stormstrike to engage the mob. If I am already attacking the mob, then have her SS, then I do, the bar works fine.

This is occurring in version 3.01.

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Old 10/17/08, 4:06 AM   #62
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First, I would like to thank you for your great work.

But I have a few suggestion :
- Could it be possible to not play sounds when we are not in fight.
- Could it be possible to always have the number of charge of MW. I don't know if it's a bug but it only appears when there is 5 charge.

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Old 10/17/08, 4:34 AM   #63
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Could you please add an option to hide the WF cooldown bar?

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Old 10/17/08, 6:04 AM   #64
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Yeah option to disable sounds out of combat is high up on the list. I kept ending with 5 stacks on trash mobs testing in Terrokar just outside Shattrath. It then had around 30 seconds of just playing sound so I was keen to add the disabling of sound outside combat. It was getting very very late last night so I didn't get onto that for v3.01.

It should be showing number of SS charges at all times, if you have the display text option on. I'll check that.

Re: SS charges. My understanding is that each shammy should put his own debuff on the target as that's how it was intended to work, you only consume your own charges. However there does appear to be a bug that only one debuff appears and we eat up each other's charges. Now the one SS debuff each goes against blizzards stated intend of trying to reduce the number of debuffs so that the 40 debuff cap is less of a problem. So I could easily see them deciding that the best use of this is to revert it to anyone in raid being able to use the debuff. So that two Enh Shammys simply refresh the buff, or stack the charges.

I would suggest that the simplest change blizzard could make would be to say for instance it becomes a raid debuff and can stack up to 5 or 10 times. With a new SS simply adding to the debuff charges up to the max number. Would anyone care to post this in the Blizz forum as a suggested fix.


OMG!!! I had a lightbulb moment!!!

What we need is an option to export your paper doll settings to EnhSim!!!

Last edited by Levva : 10/17/08 at 6:12 AM.

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Old 10/17/08, 10:46 AM   #65
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Originally Posted by Levva View Post

OMG!!! I had a lightbulb moment!!!

What we need is an option to export your paper doll settings to EnhSim!!!
That, would be a Great feature. However i would be carefull to put a note in it to make sure the export is done without buffs, or find a way to track the buffs you have and insert them into the config file as well..

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Old 10/17/08, 11:34 AM   #66
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Originally Posted by Roflmeow View Post
That, would be a Great feature. However i would be carefull to put a note in it to make sure the export is done without buffs, or find a way to track the buffs you have and insert them into the config file as well..
Good point. It would be simple to pop a warning that you needed to remove buffs, or ask you if you wanted it to remove your buffs before getting the data. I suspect this might be required as the tooltip data on buffs is often different from the actual effect eg: Windfury Totem buff someone reported as the tooltip showing 16% but the buff still giving 20% haste.

So it may be that I wouldn't be able to get accurate data without removing buffs. However this is not exactly a feature someone is going to be using in combat its a in a city I'm wanting to theory craft sort of feature, so buff removal wouldn't be a problem as long as it warned you first.

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Old 10/18/08, 9:00 AM   #67
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Not just SCT

Can you have the WF procs add to a different place other then only SCT? And also maybe some text on the bars so until I get used to it I know which bar is which.

BTW I am loving this addon so far!

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Old 10/19/08, 3:32 AM   #68
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@Levva

you asked in the enhancement-thread about including wolves into priority list.

It may be best to activate them as soon as possible, but its very situational in my eyes. For example I wouldn´t take them when the ability gets of cd and we are just killing the last mob of the group, I would wait for the next pull.

So in my eyes I wouldn´t include them into the priority list.

And looking forward for the new feature and testing it

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Old 10/19/08, 4:47 PM   #69
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Can you make the global cooldown bar to have the width that matches 1,5seconds relative to the other cooldown bars? It's pretty much useless when you have to compare it to the shock bar for example when it's the same legth as the stormstrike bar.
The other things is that I seem to get a bug that when mw flashing is turned on the bar seems to keep that alpha of the current state of the flash and if you use it while it's low alpha the bar will be barely visible when you're stacking it.

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Old 10/19/08, 5:46 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by Aximous View Post
Can you make the global cooldown bar to have the width that matches 1,5seconds relative to the other cooldown bars? It's pretty much useless when you have to compare it to the shock bar for example when it's the same legth as the stormstrike bar.
The other things is that I seem to get a bug that when mw flashing is turned on the bar seems to keep that alpha of the current state of the flash and if you use it while it's low alpha the bar will be barely visible when you're stacking it.
I had thought of this and had it like this originally in a test version. Two problems emerged. First the bar is so short its tricky to get a sense of the time, second you almost never have 1.5 GCD its usually shorter as its affected by haste. This means I need to adjust the bar width for haste not just the time delay.

I could possibly add an option to have wide or narrow GCD bars as I did like it when it was short but it was not 100% right.

I could possibly have the bar at 1.5 seconds and just scale it for whatever your haste takes the time too rather than having to destroy and recreate the bar which is an expensive operation and not viable in combat.

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Old 10/19/08, 8:36 PM   #71
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I don't know exactly how you plan on implementing the priority icons, but have you considered adding something like a colored frame around the icon when feral spirit is up?

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Old 10/19/08, 9:26 PM   #72
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Wow I've got it working and I'm very pleased with the result. Please let me know of any issues and how it works in raids. It feels fine using a training dummy.

New features :

Version 3.10
Add priority frame
Added options to select priorities - doesnt actually get used yet
Using fixed MW5_LB, SS, ES, LL rotation hardcoded at present
Changed GCD bar to narrower one so its easier to see how its timeout relates to other bars
Fixed Maelstrom bar not showing sometimes after LB cast at 5 stacks
Fixed Alpha of Maelstrom bar wrong after 5 stacks if you have flashing on
Added option to disable Windfury bar
Added display of Windshock icon in priority if threat is above threshold
Moved Windshock option & threat option to priority section

Version 3.11
Added option to control when priority shows ie: within X seconds of cooldown expiry
Allow priority to show when time left on cooldown is less than the user set cooldown period
The priority options menu now works - you can now set your own priorities

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Old 10/20/08, 7:01 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by prono View Post
Can you have the WF procs add to a different place other then only SCT? And also maybe some text on the bars so until I get used to it I know which bar is which.

BTW I am loving this addon so far!
Where else do you suggest? I thought I included a UIErrorFrame option - guess that doesn't work if you have hide errors enabled. Hmm may have to design a txt output frame, does seem overkill though. I could see no way of outputting text to Blizzards own SCT.

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Old 10/20/08, 3:27 PM   #74
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hm, just tried it, not working on live for me

Frame shows up, is moveable...got kicked twice with a critcal wow-error while trying to configure it.

Frame appears, but nothing shows up when fighting a dummie. Got an error message "Addon-Interface-something" after I started to attack once, ignored the error and tried a while, but frame still shows nothing.

Sorry I could not try it earlier and I can´t exactly say what the problem is.

Will do some longer testing tomorrow evening.

Edit: And I would like to disable the text on top of the box, so I can squeeze it into my IceHud somwhere

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Old 10/20/08, 4:31 PM   #75
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Tried it today.
The priority frame showed nothing for me and the maelstorm weapon bar disapeard sometimes until mw reached four or five stacks again.
Everything else works fine and i love it.

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