◊ Kyth

InTheBuff : WoWInterface Downloads : WotLK Beta (it's also available on Curse and through WoWMatrix.)

InTheBuff helps WotLK raidleaders come to grips with the new buff/debuff system.

It scans through your raidmembers, looking at their talent specs, and then brings up a window showing you what buffs are covered by whom and what buffs your raid doesn't have.

Buffs/debuffs can be moused over, and you will see who provides them currently, and what classes/specs are capable of providing it. It tells you how many were OOR or offline and who they were.

Furthermore, where applicable, abilities are classified as weak or strong. For example: basic CoE is +10% magic damage, and is weak (yellow.) Maledictioned CoE, Earth and Moon, and Ebon Plaguebringer are all 13%, so they are strong (green.)


It checks everything other than Hunter pets, and can be adjusted to scan only a portion of the raid: only the first 25, the first 10, or just by groups: 1-2, 3-4, etc. if you are forming up multiple 10-mans in the same raid.


Features I'm planning to add include hunter pets, and also text and graphical views of just the missing/imperfect buffs: right now the full view is a bit unwieldy if pulls are going on at the same time, for example, and not being able to report it means all raid organizers would need to run the mod.


Here's a scan in the middle of Malygos (the /itb raid10 command wasn't working at that point, to just scan groups 1-2; it is now, however.)




Many thanks to Slake of Advent Fury for his excellent code in his rewrite of Scrub (much of which I used, with his permission) and his invaluable help in writing this.

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Xelopheris

Does this provide any basic indication of exclusive buffs? For example, if you have one enhancement shaman in your raid, will it light him up for both Melee and Spell haste buffs, even though he can only do exclusively one or the other? The same would also apply if you had say, a pally with BoK and imp BoM, and another pally without BoK or BoM, would it be smart enough to indicate that Imp BoM is exclusive from BoK? Or listing a warlock for CoR and CoE.

 

◊ Kyth

Not yet although that's on the todo list. Basically a "caveats" button that you can mouse over that says things like "It looks like you don't actually have enough people to cover these sets of buffs, one of these won't be covered."

It does do a bit of that now. e.g. it only lists a shaman as able to do Wrath of Air if they *aren't* enhancement (which it defines as "has unleashed rage talented.") Just not enough.

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sartissian

What an awesome mod Kind of like a dream come true. Can't wait to put it into action. Many thanks!

Some ideas:
- Have a button that says who is redundant, based on their buffs already being covered by other raiders.
- Set it up so that once the raid is formed, a drop down next to each debuff category is populated with players who can provide it (and who are not yet assigned to a different, exclusive buff). The raid leader can assign each debuff/buff to one of those players. Then, a button spams the assignments either through a series of raid warnings or by whispering each player. Let any player whisper the raid leader with "inthebuff [buff type]" to get an autoreply with who is assigned to that buff type.

This mod sounds amazing as is, so these suggestions are just friendly ideas. Thanks for doing this!

Sart

 

◊ Kyth

Both good ideas, although that second is a fair bit more involved than the first .

The first is a bit tricky because it involves intelligence that I, at least, do not have: is it easier/better to apply the buff via class X or class Y, if they're equivalent? I know for warlocks/moonkin/DK's, for example, with CoE/CoR, but I don't know all the classes.

If anyone has that information (or perhaps it will come out of the RaidComp thread? Or maybe after we all settle into the changes) I can look into adding that sort of intelligence.

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sartissian

Those are good points. I actually think that implementing the second idea (definitely more involved) is the best way to solve the intelligence dilemma of the first. Once the raid leader works out the assignments the way s/he wants them, the mod could present the list of "useless" (unassigned) raid members.

I'm better at the logic for this type of thing than the coding, but I'd be happy to help in any way I can. Otherwise, I'll just be on the sidelines cheerin ya on.

 

◊ Kyth

Ha. That's a point I hadn't thought of because I was focusing on them separately. You're very correct in that.

It's just a lot of interface to add. I won't have it before 3.0 launch, but I'll see about after that.

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mostlikely

Awesome mod ofc.. something that will be a must have very soon...

Maybe it would be nice to make the main interface independent of being in a raid.
Ie. you have the ability to store the talent for people you scan in a database of players which you then could use 'whenever' to produce are raid-makeup.
With options to invite the people in your list change the list into your current raid, you avoid the hassle having to invite/kick people from a raid to experiment.

 

sartissian

It seems to me that if you set it to 25 man mode, you can currently just shift people between groups 1-5 and 6-8 to experiment, rather than having to repeatedly invite/kick people for the raid.

 

Exemplar

Perhaps have it share data to the raid in the same fashion as Pally Power.

Pally Power allows the setting of Blessings amongst Paladins and everyone running it gets auto-updated with their assignments. Doing something like this could alert people of their required "job" buffing without the worry that people are AFK during assignment process and don't pick up their task. You wouldn't have to re-spam if one person was replaced in a raid and you rejuggled half the assignments.

I have a feeling a lot of buff instructions would be missed if shared via whisper/raid warning due to people being in other chat tabs, Alt-tabbed out, or generally AFK.

 

◊ Kyth

Correct. /itb to see the various options (they're listed on the WoWInterface page also.)

You can also have it just look at groups 1-2. Or 3-4 (or 5-6 or 7-8). In case you're forming multiple 10-mans in the same raid window and want to see how the buffs look in each case.

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Oshar

Greetings, this will be working with the 3.0.2 patch which will probably come next week?

 

Borona

The version is working on PTR and Beta and therefore should work just fine with the new patch.

 

Oshar

Okie, thank you.

 

Frah

Any chance you could add that id does not need to scan. Maybe a side bar where you can select for yourself what specs are in the raid or something like that. I personally do not want to run about trying to find everyone before we get to an instance to scan.

 

◊ Kyth

I'm not sure what you're asking for, can you clarify?


Also, yes, it's less than ideal, but there's really no other way to get talent information. It means forming up at the raid zone and then figuring out if anything is missing but that seems pretty reasonable since you're headed to the raid zone *anyways*.

If you actually can't get your guild to be in one place, I'm not sure anything can help because of the 30' limit -- that's just how the WoW UI works.

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sovelis41

I'd suggest using mmo-champ's RaidComp out of raid or before raid forming (or during), and then using this mod to double check once everyone is at the instance to be sure you are covered.

You pay for the whole chair, but you only need the edge.

 

Frah

Yes that is kind of what I was asking for but an in game version. So where is says "x unscanable" you could perhaps inform the mod yourself of their spec.

 

Athika

Editted, post is in the MMO-champion RaidComp thread instead.