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04/15/09, 10:56 AM
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#101
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Aerie Peak
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My S&A has been giving me lau errors and will not work - Have looked for updates but I realize from what you say that you will not be in to take a look until today.
Great addon and would not know what to do if it went the way of the dodo.
Thanks
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04/15/09, 11:43 AM
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#102
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Hellscream
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I read that you weren't going to support saa because squawkhard was available. I used this addon last night and I don't like it much. I really couldn't understand what the addon was telling me and the options/configuration isn't very user friendly imo. I like the bars. I think your addon is superior because you can just glance at it and know where you are in terms of timers. I don't like an addon that tells me to cast something. Cast IS, MF, Wrath, eclipse procs and I only know that eclipse has proc'd because I see the icon over my head. SH doesn't tell me that eclipse has proc'd it just tells me to cast SF, then in the middle of eclipse if IS drops off all it will show is the IS icon. I know longer know where I am in the eclipse proc or if MF is still up (without searching for the debuff my target) or where I'm at in the eclipse cool down. All that happens is until I cast IS SH doesn't give me any more information.
To use SH I'm going to have to use another addon that will at least give me timer bars for IS and MF.
Last edited by Kayla5454 : 04/15/09 at 11:48 AM.
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04/15/09, 12:49 PM
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#103
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Ninja baby!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by Kayla5454
I read that you weren't going to support saa because squawkhard was available. I used this addon last night and I don't like it much. I really couldn't understand what the addon was telling me and the options/configuration isn't very user friendly imo. I like the bars. I think your addon is superior because you can just glance at it and know where you are in terms of timers. I don't like an addon that tells me to cast something. Cast IS, MF, Wrath, eclipse procs and I only know that eclipse has proc'd because I see the icon over my head. SH doesn't tell me that eclipse has proc'd it just tells me to cast SF, then in the middle of eclipse if IS drops off all it will show is the IS icon. I know longer know where I am in the eclipse proc or if MF is still up (without searching for the debuff my target) or where I'm at in the eclipse cool down. All that happens is until I cast IS SH doesn't give me any more information.
To use SH I'm going to have to use another addon that will at least give me timer bars for IS and MF.
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Oh no. I do intend to keep maintaining SAA. Heck, I still use it myself and any time it doesn't work properly I fumble pretty horribly. I just meant that SH does what I'd been planning to do with a future version, and unfortunately now that it exists I can't justify the time expenditure to reproduce it natively. I use both, though SH is really just a double-check in some of the timing-critical areas (less than 4s left on the cooldown, but is there enough time for another SF?).
Band, you didn't give me much to work with. If the Lua error is something like "attempt to concatenate to namestring, a nil value" or similar, it's likely the issue mentioned above, that there is only one rank of FF now. Unchecking the FF bar will squelch the bug until I can get a release up.
As for the UnitAura() API change, you shouldn't notice any issue if you're the only moonkin in a group (for the technical people, the return parameter isMine was changed to give a unitID instead. Since I only check if the return is not-false, it will consider every spellcast to be yours until the change is released). I'm not sure what behavior exhibits if there's more than one moonkin in a group. UnitAura() returns debuffs by its own index. If your own debuffs are always reported first, there should be no real issues. If it returns them based on duration left, you may get jumpy debuff bars. Buffs should never be an issue, though, since it only checks you anyway. In either case, it's poor code to leave it so I'll get it fixed once I get a chance.
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04/15/09, 1:03 PM
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#104
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Hellscream
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I will have to check about the FF bug. I think that is why it wasn't working last night. Also, I am having a few problems understanding the options in squawkhard. I did a search to get a better explanation of the option settings but no luck. If anyone could help me out I would appreciate it.
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04/15/09, 1:06 PM
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#105
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Ninja baby!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by Kayla5454
Thanks for keeping it but it's not working right now.  I was lost last night and my dps was terrible. Any suggestions on what I can use to see the internal cool down. Also, I am having a hard time understanding the options menu for squawkhard.
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What wasn't working? The whole mod? Did you have the FF bar enabled? I haven't had a chance to play with the mod yet, I barely got the rest of my UI up and running by midnight last night (still not fully fixed). Any information people can provide should help me track it down faster once I get the chance. If you're getting lua errors, please try to make a note of what the error says.
[edit] As for SH, I found most of the options fairly straightforward. The first few (I think) define the thresholds for when you'll stop refreshing DoTs during the various Eclipses, I.E. Insect Swarm Wrath Eclipse Threshold (or whatever the name really is, I don't have a screenshot at work) of 6 means that it won't prompt you to cast IS if Solar Eclipse is up and has less than 6s remaining. I maxed out the threat slider, or did whatever the help bubble said to disable it entirely, since I don't care about that at all.
Last edited by Adoriele : 04/15/09 at 1:17 PM.
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04/15/09, 1:08 PM
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#106
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Hellscream
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Originally Posted by Adoriele
What wasn't working? The whole mod? Did you have the FF bar enabled?
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Yes, sorry Adorielle. I believe it's the FF bug. I edited my post above but you beat me. :P I'll check it out tonight when I get home from work.
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04/15/09, 3:55 PM
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#107
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Adoriele
What wasn't working? The whole mod? Did you have the FF bar enabled? I haven't had a chance to play with the mod yet, I barely got the rest of my UI up and running by midnight last night (still not fully fixed). Any information people can provide should help me track it down faster once I get the chance. If you're getting lua errors, please try to make a note of what the error says.
[edit] As for SH, I found most of the options fairly straightforward. The first few (I think) define the thresholds for when you'll stop refreshing DoTs during the various Eclipses, I.E. Insect Swarm Wrath Eclipse Threshold (or whatever the name really is, I don't have a screenshot at work) of 6 means that it won't prompt you to cast IS if Solar Eclipse is up and has less than 6s remaining. I maxed out the threat slider, or did whatever the help bubble said to disable it entirely, since I don't care about that at all.
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Hmm, for me, just with This fix the mod has been working normally without any errors as far as I could tell from the ~2 hours I spent in Ulduar. Even with FF bar enabled.
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04/15/09, 4:30 PM
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#108
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Aerie Peak
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Oh crude - I really didn't pay much attention to it cause I figured you'd have to update it for the new patch - let me go load it back up and see what it says.
OK - It says (and I quote) - Interface\AddOns|SquawkAndAwe\SquawkAndAwe.lau:1085 attempt to concatenate local 'namestring' (a nil value)
and then the window that broadcast it cannot be shut and another window pops up above it telling me "You Addons are experiencing a large number of errors and may be slowing down the game. You can turn on display of Lua errors in the interface options.
And then I have to log out and deselect S&A... 
Last edited by BandX : 04/15/09 at 4:52 PM.
Reason: added info needed for reply
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04/15/09, 6:04 PM
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#109
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Glass Joe
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or you could go into interface and uncheck show lua errors and they wont show up and keep using SAA
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04/15/09, 6:12 PM
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#110
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Ninja baby!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by BandX
Oh crude - I really didn't pay much attention to it cause I figured you'd have to update it for the new patch - let me go load it back up and see what it says.
OK - It says (and I quote) - Interface\AddOns|SquawkAndAwe\SquawkAndAwe.lau:1085 attempt to concatenate local 'namestring' (a nil value)
and then the window that broadcast it cannot be shut and another window pops up above it telling me "You Addons are experiencing a large number of errors and may be slowing down the game. You can turn on display of Lua errors in the interface options.
And then I have to log out and deselect S&A... 
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Sounds like the same bug I have with mine, which I'm betting is the Faerie Fire issue (as it would be trying to grab namestring from a spell that no longer exists, hence nil). Either the fix listed above, which points to the correct spell, or deselecting the FF bar should fix the lua error issue, though obviously deselecting the bar won't actually fix it.
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04/15/09, 6:13 PM
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#111
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Von Kaiser
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If you're looking for a quick and dirty replacement for SAA, they've fixed quartz, and someone wrote a quartz addon to time eclipse.
WoW AddOns - Quartz - WowAce.com
Quartz: Eclipse Module - Addons - Curse
Quartz as you probably all know is a cast bar mod that tracks what buffs/debuffs are on a mob. Its default set to track 'your' buffs and debuffs. So its timer bars track your durations of moonfire/insectswarm/FF. And the Eclipse addon tracks your eclipse buff and its cooldown.
When you fix SAA though I'll probably change back up for that. Its nice to have a separate bar for just moonkin stuff.
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04/15/09, 6:46 PM
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#112
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Aerie Peak
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Well with much trepidation I tried the 770 solution and that seemed to fix the problem of the error message - will keep an eye out for a new update. Hope ppl will rename the file before they go change it though just in case...lol
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04/15/09, 10:10 PM
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#113
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Druid
Bloodhoof
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Just for further confirmation, I was seeing the exact same error mentioned above and changing the spell number to 770 fixed it.
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04/15/09, 10:29 PM
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#114
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Glass Joe
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Hello. I turned off the FF bar which fixed that issue, but my Global Cooldown bar is also broken and does the same thing. this bar was nice to have too. How could I fix it, or is there an updated version with fixes available? the link still has a 1/1/09 version for download.
Thank you and great work!
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04/15/09, 11:13 PM
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#115
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Ninja baby!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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v1.2 just got uploaded, fixes the FF bar (though it still only crawls rather than staying full until under ~30s) and converts to the new UnitAura() API. I'm not seeing any issues with the GCD bar, but I didn't check before I made the changes. Let me know if you're still having issues, or if you had them and this fixes it.
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04/15/09, 11:41 PM
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#116
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Glass Joe
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Thanks I downloaded and installed the update. I still get a solid Gray Bar when I enable the GCD Bar. I know that's it because it goes away when I disable it. Nor does this bar work right now so I have it disabled but I loved that one hehe
Thanks again.
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04/15/09, 11:42 PM
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#117
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Glass Joe
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Dude ok you're not gonna believe this but now its working. it stayed on screen til my first cast then it went away and now it works.
standby for further info lol..
And I'm SOBER!
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04/16/09, 12:41 AM
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#118
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Tichondrius
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Great mod, thanks for updating it.
Running into an issue where MF and Eclipse/Eclipse Cooldown overlap. This is v1.2 (rc1) from tonight. Cleared WTF saved vars, etc. and I managed to reproduce it on two comps. Not sure what's causing it tbh.
In my settings I only have MF/Eclipse/Eclipse CD/IS up and it appears that the MF/Eclipse/CD bars are the ones overlapping.
See the following: http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v...509_203723.jpg
Last edited by Morasta : 04/16/09 at 12:49 AM.
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04/16/09, 12:48 AM
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#119
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Ninja baby!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by Morasta
Great mod, thanks for updating it.
Running into an issue where MF and Eclipse/Eclipse Cooldown overlap. This is v1.2 (rc1) from tonight. Cleared WTF saved vars, etc. and I managed to reproduce it on two comps. Not sure what's causing it tbh.
See the following: http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v...509_203723.jpg
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Hmm, that's very odd. I'll take a look into it.
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04/16/09, 1:51 PM
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#120
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Tichondrius
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since the patch, SAA has been overlapping for me as well, similar to screenshot but it's only the moonfire and eclipse bars that overlap. MF, IS, and eclipse are the only 3 i use rest are disabled.
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04/16/09, 4:37 PM
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#121
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Glass Joe
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Adoriele,
Thanks for updating SaA so quickly! I felt like a buffoon without it. Just wanted to say that your hard work is much appreciated!
-Camel
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04/16/09, 7:01 PM
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#122
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Morasta
Great mod, thanks for updating it.
Running into an issue where MF and Eclipse/Eclipse Cooldown overlap. This is v1.2 (rc1) from tonight. Cleared WTF saved vars, etc. and I managed to reproduce it on two comps. Not sure what's causing it tbh.
In my settings I only have MF/Eclipse/Eclipse CD/IS up and it appears that the MF/Eclipse/CD bars are the ones overlapping.
See the following: http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v...509_203723.jpg
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I am having this exact same issue. When I did the quick fix on the old SAA to fix FF to the new spell number, everything was good, no overlapping. Overlapping occurred only after updating to the newest SAA.
On a similar note, have you ever considered disconnecting the bars so that they could be moved/sized separately?
Thanks Adoriele! SAA is really a perfectly executed mod, and I'm so glad to see that you're keeping it going.
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04/16/09, 7:06 PM
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#123
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Ninja baby!
Night Elf Druid
Dragonblight
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Originally Posted by Zihuataneja
I am having this exact same issue. When I did the quick fix on the old SAA to fix FF to the new spell number, everything was good, no overlapping. Overlapping occurred only after updating to the newest SAA.
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Good, that's useful info. I'll see if it happens when I raid tonight, though it wasn't an issue for me while I was testing it. As for disconnecting the bars, that would be a lot of work, with little benefit, so not something I'm likely to do. Also, when I get the fix updated, I'll be removing the borders on all "internal" bars, i.e. Eclipse (not cooldown) and both the tick bars.
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04/16/09, 7:56 PM
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#124
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Eonar (EU)
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Gratefull
Thanks Adoriele for this great addon. I got a question about the settings of it. In heavy aoe fights and where its alot of spelleffects I at times got hard time to see the timers since I prefer to have them close to the center of the screen where I easy can spot them. Is there any way to set a background to the bars ?
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04/16/09, 9:07 PM
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#125
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Glass Joe
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I am also having the problem where the eclipse and moonfire bars are overlapping, however, using an older version with the ff fix did not work for me to correct it. 
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