RhadaTip (gear and gem optimizer) - Page 3

Rhadamanthis · 10/05/09, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by warlockone

bah seems i have double posted as well as not linking the other helm ><
yes, upon completing the process it went on to equip Nemesis Skullcap - Item - World of Warcraft and remove my tier headpeice. in response to your questions i set the casting vaules as seen in your video and im not currently able to verify the version as im at uniand but double check that when i get in.

the difference was only 6. something dps so i was unusre if it was based soley on dps.

Ummm. I double-checked your numbers (assuming the scales seen on the youtube video). Here is the result:

Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood
Binds when picked up
Head Cloth
256 Armor
+89 Stamina
+76 Intellect
+41 Spirit
Meta Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +8 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 60 / 60
Classes: Warlock
Requires Level 80
Item Level 226
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 86 (1.87% @ L80).
Equip: Increases spell power by 113.

76*0.33=25,08
51*1.11=56,61
94*0.84=78,96
125*1.57=196,25
total: 356,9

Nemesis Skullcap
Binds when picked up
Head Cloth
269 Armor
+91 Stamina
+89 Intellect
+99 Spirit
+10 Resistance
+10 Resistance
Meta Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus: +8 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 60 / 60
Classes: Warlock
Requires Level 80
Item Level 245
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 55 (1.2% @ L80).
Equip: Increases spell power by 150.

89*0.33=29,37
99*1.11=109,89
63*0.84=52,92
173*1.57=271,61
total: 463,79

463.79-356.9=106,89

Nemesis is a 106.89 dps gain over the tier8, ignoring the set bonuses. Now, assuming that you either:

Mistyped it here, equipping the nemesis skullcap is making you loose 4pt8 and not 2pt8
Mistyped the set bonuses in the mod's input frame, writing 100 in the 2pt8 instead of 130

You get that Nemesis Skullcap is worth exacly 6.89 dps more than Deathbringer Hood, just the number that you mentioned (6 something dps) in your post. Mind that Nemesis is worth 6 more dps than Deathbringer + lost set bonus, so RhadaTip equipped the correct item.

warlockone · 10/06/09, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rhadamanthis

Ummm. I double-checked your numbers (assuming the scales seen on the youtube video). Here is the result:

Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood
Binds when picked up
Head Cloth
256 Armor
+89 Stamina
+76 Intellect
+41 Spirit
Meta Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +8 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 60 / 60
Classes: Warlock
Requires Level 80
Item Level 226
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 86 (1.87% @ L80).
Equip: Increases spell power by 113.

76*0.33=25,08
51*1.11=56,61
94*0.84=78,96
125*1.57=196,25
total: 356,9

Nemesis Skullcap
Binds when picked up
Head Cloth
269 Armor
+91 Stamina
+89 Intellect
+99 Spirit
+10 Resistance
+10 Resistance
Meta Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus: +8 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 60 / 60
Classes: Warlock
Requires Level 80
Item Level 245
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 55 (1.2% @ L80).
Equip: Increases spell power by 150.

89*0.33=29,37
99*1.11=109,89
63*0.84=52,92
173*1.57=271,61
total: 463,79

463.79-356.9=106,89

Nemesis is a 106.89 dps gain over the tier8, ignoring the set bonuses. Now, assuming that you either:

Mistyped it here, equipping the nemesis skullcap is making you loose 4pt8 and not 2pt8
Mistyped the set bonuses in the mod's input frame, writing 100 in the 2pt8 instead of 130

You get that Nemesis Skullcap is worth exacly 6.89 dps more than Deathbringer Hood, just the number that you mentioned (6 something dps) in your post. Mind that Nemesis is worth 6 more dps than Deathbringer + lost set bonus, so RhadaTip equipped the correct item.

hi again, 1st off i would like to apologise on the scaling as i didnt explain it clearly at all so thats my fault there, its only the set bonuses that are the same (taken from your video) rest of stats are set as follows:

spec: 3/15/53
Hit: 10%
Avg cast time: 1.4
intel:0.49
Spirit:1.37
SP:1.53
Hit: 3.48
Crit: 0.83
Haste 1.24

Gem choices were normal gems used.

Upon running the optimizer it replaces my [Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood] with [Nemesis Skullcap] when hovering over my tier headpeice in my bags rhada tip show that equiping it would be a 6.65 dps gain

the same is also true with my wand, upon completeing the process the optimizer equips [Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians] i then go into my bags and hover over [Rod of Imprisoned Souls] and it shows this wand as being a 51.53dps gain. (not sure if this has something to do with self dps similar to the rings)

after the optimizer is done my total gear dps sits at 7231.30 (and 12.85% hit) when i swap in the 2 peices mentioned my total gear dps sits at 7289.48 (12.16%hit) your probably wondering why im specced 3/15/53 if i have that much hit, basically it was up until my last raid i was around 10% i was fortunate to replace [Pyrelight Circle] with [Firestorm Ring] and [Chain of the Ancient Wyrm] with [Darkbane Pendant] on my last TOC run.

i do have the 2.1.4 version of the addon

im guessing im probably doing something wrong myself in all honesty but i cant pin point what it is.

Robis · 10/09/09, 3:29 AM

Hello, ruRU locale didn't work, or I doing something wrong?

Message: ...rface\AddOns\RhadaTip\Libs\LibItemBonus-2.0\core.lua:1: attempt to index global 'LibStub' (a nil value)
Time: 10/08/09 12:36:06
Count: 1
Stack: [string "Interface\FrameXML\BasicControls.xml:<Scrip..."]:18: in function <[string "Interface\FrameXML\BasicControls.xml:<Scrip..."]:4>
[C]: ?
...rface\AddOns\RhadaTip\Libs\LibItemBonus-2.0\core.lua:1: in main chunk

Locals: (*temporary) = nil
(*temporary) = nil
....
....
(*temporary) = nil
(*temporary) = "attempt to index global 'LibStub' (a nil value)"

Thanks in advance.

Spotnick · 10/11/09, 6:12 AM

Quick note to say that the Fetish of Volatile Power makes a big bug over here with a very large negative dps number.

I know the trinket is bad, but still, ;-)

Rhadamanthis · 10/11/09, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Spotnick

Quick note to say that the Fetish of Volatile Power makes a big bug over here with a very large negative dps number.

I know the trinket is bad, but still, ;-)

This isn't a bug but a misconfiguration of the mod. You need to insert an average casting time in the hit cap and gems tab (/rt hc).

Rhadamanthis · 10/11/09, 3:56 PM

Originally Posted by Robis

Hello, ruRU locale didn't work, or I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Sadly me and my "official" russian translator forgot to localize the tier set names. I've asked him, should be fixed asap, I'll let you know how it goes!

Rhadamanthis · 10/11/09, 4:43 PM

Originally Posted by warlockone

Upon running the optimizer it replaces my [Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood] with [Nemesis Skullcap] when hovering over my tier headpeice in my bags rhada tip show that equiping it would be a 6.65 dps gain

the same is also true with my wand, upon completeing the process the optimizer equips [Gemmed Wand of the Nerubians] i then go into my bags and hover over [Rod of Imprisoned Souls] and it shows this wand as being a 51.53dps gain. (not sure if this has something to do with self dps similar to the rings)

after the optimizer is done my total gear dps sits at 7231.30 (and 12.85% hit) when i swap in the 2 peices mentioned my total gear dps sits at 7289.48 (12.16%hit)

Lets try this.

Open RhadaTipGear.lua.

Go around line 350, and add the following like, just below nthTrinket1 = RhadaTip_BestTrinket0Link

out(nthHead .. "+" .. nthNeck .. "+" .. nthShoulder .. "+" .. nthBack .. "+" .. nthChest .. "+" .. nthWrist .. "+" .. nthHands .. "+" .. nthWaist .. "+" .. nthLegs .. "+" .. nthFeet .. "+" .. nthMainHand .. "+" .. nthSecondaryHand .. "+" .. nthRanged .. "+" .. nthFinger0 .. "+" .. nthFinger1 .. "+" .. nthTrinket0 .. "+" .. nthTrinket1)

This will print the tried out set combinations. Now lets also have their dps value. A couple lines below you will have if tonumber(dps) > tonumber(topDps) then, right above it you can add:

out(dps)

Then, save the file, and open WoW.

Once logged you have to rerun the gear optimizer, to make everything simpler, you should also remove all items from your bags, except the [Nemesis Skullcap] and the [Rod of Imprisoned Souls]. Lets see what it comes up with.

Thanks for the help,
Rhad

Rhadamanthis · 10/15/09, 7:49 AM

I could use a couple testers for the newest version, any takers

?

morgaine · 10/15/09, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rhadamanthis

I could use a couple testers for the newest version, any takers

?

I would be happy to help you test this

warlockone · 10/15/09, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rhadamanthis

Lets try this.

Open RhadaTipGear.lua.

Go around line 350, and add the following like, just below nthTrinket1 = RhadaTip_BestTrinket0Link

out(nthHead .. "+" .. nthNeck .. "+" .. nthShoulder .. "+" .. nthBack .. "+" .. nthChest .. "+" .. nthWrist .. "+" .. nthHands .. "+" .. nthWaist .. "+" .. nthLegs .. "+" .. nthFeet .. "+" .. nthMainHand .. "+" .. nthSecondaryHand .. "+" .. nthRanged .. "+" .. nthFinger0 .. "+" .. nthFinger1 .. "+" .. nthTrinket0 .. "+" .. nthTrinket1)

This will print the tried out set combinations. Now lets also have their dps value. A couple lines below you will have if tonumber(dps) > tonumber(topDps) then, right above it you can add:

out(dps)

Then, save the file, and open WoW.

Once logged you have to rerun the gear optimizer, to make everything simpler, you should also remove all items from your bags, except the [Nemesis Skullcap] and the [Rod of Imprisoned Souls]. Lets see what it comes up with.

Thanks for the help,
Rhad

hi again. im currently extremely busy with uni work at this moment in time so have not really had chance to do this, but as soon as i do, i `ll get a post on here and let you know what it says. recieved an infraction for my last post here so not sure if i offended somebody, apologies if i did

Rhadamanthis · 10/16/09, 3:35 PM

Originally Posted by zuke8675309

RhadaTip has been a great tool and I like it a lot. However, I'm seeing a result now that is making me question its accuracy. I need some help.

Here is a link to my armory page.

The problem is that when I open AtlaslootEnhanced and browse the loot for Lord Jaraxxus, RhadaTip tells me that the Firestorm Ring he drops is a dps loss for me. This is a problem because of my current rings is Sinner's Confession which has lower stats in every area except stamina.

What the tooltip shows is an Item DPS value of 309.66 for Sinner's Confession and Item DPS value of 348.7 for Firestorm Ring. However, the tooltip for Firestorm Ring also shows Current Total Gear DPS of 6560.36 and New DPS of 6518.36 - a 42 dps loss (in red).

If the stats of the Firestorm Ring are higher than Sinner's Confession and the DPS value of Firestorm Ring is higher, obviously the new total gear DPS value should be higher as well. Is there a bug?

I've completed the fix to this ring issue. Would you (or anybody else with the same situation available) be able to test it if I send you a mirror? It took quite some code change to core methods, I'd rather not upload a buggy file you know!

Gorgrom · 10/19/09, 5:45 PM

Hello Rhada excellent tool thanks for taking the time out to do this for us who hate doing our own napkin maths

. I have been using this for my DK and I was just wondering if you were going to put in an option to set the expertise cap?

I would also be happy to help test any new versions.

Rhadamanthis · 10/19/09, 9:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gorgrom

Hello Rhada excellent tool thanks for taking the time out to do this for us who hate doing our own napkin maths

. I have been using this for my DK and I was just wondering if you were going to put in an option to set the expertise cap?

I would also be happy to help test any new versions.

Absolutely, I've rewritten some of the core functions for 2.1.5 (almost) just to be able to add the expertise cap more easily in an uncoming version.

Rhadamanthis · 10/20/09, 6:20 PM

2.1.5 is now up, here is the changelog:

Rings and trinkets comparisons should now be always accurate, regardless of hit rings currently worn by the player.
Added tier9 pre-saved scaling values.
Fixed a bug caused by One-Hand weapons that sometimes prevented the gear optimizer from working.
Added the following gems: Sovereign Dreadstone and Nightmare Tear.
Added the 3 Darkmoon Fairie: Greatness cards that had been left out of the previous releases.
Added russian localized tier set names (fixing the 2.1.4 known bug with the ruRU locale).
Added a message that shows how many gear combinations the gear optimizer is about to test (as a reference, on my pc 14400 combinations took 182 seconds to be fully evaluated).
Fixed a bug that was sometimes causing the gear optimizer to equip the wrong rings or trinkets.
The gear optimizer now factors in the 12 hit ratings from the enchantment Icewalker toward the evaluation of the excessive hit over the user specified gear hit cap.
The gear optimizer now supports shields properly.
Fixed an issue caused by mana per 5 socketbonuses in the deDE locale.
Rewritten many core functions to speed the addon up and make future additions (ie the expertise cap) easier to implement.
Updated the french locale.

Rhadamanthis · 11/08/09, 8:54 PM

Is there anyone that could help me to test the upcoming version? If you have low fps, the better

Dmi · 11/18/09, 5:37 AM

Originally Posted by Rhadamanthis

Is there anyone that could help me to test the upcoming version? If you have low fps, the better

I'd be willing to help.

2 problems I was having with the mod:

1) No direct support for Battlemaster's Ruination. =( Please add.
2) When I had 4pcT9 via ilvl 232 shoulders, it would often come up with gearsets that included my ilvl 245 Pauldrons of Revered Mortality. Strangely enough, if I moused over the ilvl 232 T9 shoulders it would say that equipping those shoulders would be a dps upgrade. As soon as I actually used the optimizer it would get swapped back out again. My T9 set bonuses were set to 2pc=100 & 4pc=130.

achille · 11/18/09, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dmi

I'd be willing to help.

2 problems I was having with the mod:

1) No direct support for Battlemaster's Ruination. =( Please add.
2) When I had 4pcT9 via ilvl 232 shoulders, it would often come up with gearsets that included my ilvl 245 Pauldrons of Revered Mortality. Strangely enough, if I moused over the ilvl 232 T9 shoulders it would say that equipping those shoulders would be a dps upgrade. As soon as I actually used the optimizer it would get swapped back out again. My T9 set bonuses were set to 2pc=100 & 4pc=130.

Sure, I'll add that trinket with the next major update, coming out soon. The problem with trinkets (and gems) is that I have to model and add them one by one, therefore I tend to skip stuff that I deem not so worthy, and postpone it until someone asks for it (gems with stamina as one of the two stats are another example).
That is weird. Is the shoulder slot the only one that would be swapped? I can only think of a couple reasons, one being an equip bug caused by having too many jewelcrafting's only gems. That can't be if the only difference between the list that the optimizer comes out with is the shoulder item. Ah, one more thing, you are using version 2.1.5b?

Dmi · 11/18/09, 1:42 PM

Originally Posted by achille

Sure, I'll add that trinket with the next major update, coming out soon. The problem with trinkets (and gems) is that I have to model and add them one by one, therefore I tend to skip stuff that I deem not so worthy, and postpone it until someone asks for it (gems with stamina as one of the two stats are another example).
That is weird. Is the shoulder slot the only one that would be swapped? I can only think of a couple reasons, one being an equip bug caused by having too many jewelcrafting's only gems. That can't be if the only difference between the list that the optimizer comes out with is the shoulder item. Ah, one more thing, you are using version 2.1.5b?

[Battlemaster's Ruination] should be easy to model, because it's just a flat +150 sp. The proc addes health, not stam. I haven't had any luck picking up trinket upgrades since I've just been doing ToC and was stuck with [Abyssal Rune] and the [Sundial of the Exiled]. Lootrank seems to think the Battlemaster's is better for me (I'm meta/ruin spec), so it would be nice not to have Rhadatip swapping it out. Lootrank also thinks [Talisman of Resurgence] is better than the Battlemaster, but Simcraft didn't agree the last time I tried modelling it.

I confirmed that I am running 2.1.5b. I'm also a tailor/alchemist so JC only gems should not affect me. Does it matter if I use Fel Armor or flask?

I think the shoulder slot is the only one that would be swapped because that's the only slot where the non-set piece was better than my set piece on an individual basis (excluding set bonuses).