10/20/10, 1:55 PM
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Mike Tyson
Night Elf Rogue
Doomhammer
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Infraction for Voric: Continued awfulness
Post: Fury DPS: 4.0 and Cataclysm
User: Voric
Infraction: Continued awfulness
Points: 3
Administrative Note:
Message to User:
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You continue to spam the thread with an unnecessary volume of posts rather than properly consolidating them, and you also appear to think that repetition is an acceptable substitute for evidence. If you're right, provide testing or analysis explaining why, just don't repeat yourself with increasing vitriol in the hope that people will randomly start agreeing with you.
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Original Post:

Originally Posted by Serivola
I don't get your point...
And because I forgot to ask...
Did you also tried Haste for Crit?
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I don't know how much more clear I can be?
I tried taking Crit away for hit and Haste away for Crit . Taking Crit away and keeping Haste I found a dps increase.
I have around 41% Crit and almost 800 Haste. Think about haste here the more haste you have the quicker you swing your weapons the quicker you swing your weapons the more hits you're gonna get off hence more rage.
Originally Posted by nadoo
A. yes i use a very similar setup and am very happy with this.
B/C. our gear is not the same so this is irrelevant.
D.
All im saying is that you are working on the basis that everyone has unlimited rage. I always have HS, BT and RB on CD as i stated before, however I realise that if I didnt have the rage then BT and RB would take priority.
HS is 30 rage, BT and RB are 20. So in terms of rage cost: 2HS=3BT or RB.
2HS does not hit harder than any 3 combination of BT and RB (i.e. 3 BT).
2 parries would only be expected if you were infront which you would get anyway unless you have the hard exp cap.
There is testing in the cataclysm warrior changes sticky, and i also have not had any dodges with 22 exp 174 rating for me although apparently it might be 173 or 172.
In general I agree with your guide.
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What kind of gear are you using? My guide is for people who have top end gear pretty much if not then if you're getting Rage Starved then do HS when you have 60+ Rage.

Originally Posted by Pigfat
I do not have the numbers with me because I'm at work, but with 26.93% Hit and Haste > Crit, I was able to generate enough rage without using any abilities what so ever to use RB, HS, BT and SLAM without ever being rage starved.
I use a one button macro for RB, HS and BT. The macro uses RB over BT in priority. It also uses RB before HS in the case that I would be rage starved and HS before BT in the same situation. I have slam on a different button. The only problem with the macro is that I can't see every independant ability CD, meaning I might use BT some times with 0.1 seconds left on RB CD.
Slam increases dps by about 300 when not rage starved.
For anyone who has yet to figure it out, execute is #1 priority as soon as you can use it.
RB hits 2 times everytime you use it (once with each weapon in hand).
HS hits harder then BT no matter what, because of the double Crit effect you get through talents.
Furthermore, when using abilities other then attacks, I chain Beserker Rage and Deathwish at all times insted of using them at the same time to have a higher RB uptime (you can only use RB when you are enraged). Alone chaining these two abilities raised my dps by about 150.
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I really don't understand why you're using Rb and BT over HS? I mean unless from my previous post where I said If you don't have the greatest gear then you probably are going to have to wait for HS until you're 60 Rage +. But you should never have to really wait for Berserker Rage and Deathwish as a chain because RB is pretty much always up and if you have the gear for it you should be doing HS>BT>RB if not then I suppose BT>RB>BT>HS. I always use Berserker Rage and Bshout when they're up for more rage obviously and I use Recklessness and Death Wish at the same time when I have 4-6 Procs = Way more Damage.
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