04/26/07, 11:08 AM
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Unregistered is awesome.
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Infraction for spronk: Useless Post
Post: Actual 2.1 Patchnotes
User: spronk
Infraction: Useless Post
Points: 1
Administrative Note:
Message to User:
Good god.
OK, I'm still hungover, but I can't take this whine* anymore.
*See, Whine and Wine sound the same when you say them, hence why I mentioned my hangover.
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Original Post:

2.1.0 doesn't really fix any of the casual raiding issues. Karazhan is slightly nerfed, but it will still take casual guilds 2 days to clear it. Maulgar/Gruul are not any easier, nor is Magtheridon (I've run all three in PUGs on PTR, we wiped miserably but just basic trash/boss encounters are not significantly different). The keying process is unchanged. BT and Hyjal will be completely inaccessible to the vast majority of guilds.
I'd say Karazhan is the equivalent of ZG/AQ20, there is no sigifnicant (more than 1 boss) equivalent of MC, Onyxia, BWL, or early Naxx. Maulgar/Gruul are at the difficulty level of Rag/Nef or early AQ40, and Mag/SSC/TK and beyond are at Twin Emps/Naxx (end wing) difficulty. Nerfing Mag is just fixing a symptom and not the root problem, there is a giant leap in difficulty from Karazhan to 25 mans. Going from clearing ZG to MC or BWL was always a step back in difficulty for new raiders, not so anymore.
2.1.0 does NOT make SSC the equivalent of MC or BWL in terms of difficulty, and thats really what needs to be done and will be done at some point in the future, when a good number of guilds are in BT.
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