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Old 11/24/11, 11:09 PM   #1
• malthrin
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Infraction for Ivald1: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.

Post: [Holy]Cataclysm Holy Compendium (4.0.6)
User: Ivald1
Infraction: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.
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Quote-splitting - quoting someone, but splitting it up to reply point by point - is against the forum rules precisely because of discussions like this one. The useful information is totally obscured by the back and forth of nitpicking each others' mistakes. I'm infracting both of you for it.
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Originally Posted by Shockadin View Post
First, there is no diminishing return on haste, it will alway give you the same exact amount of output increase per percent. And even without factoring in procs like Daybreak or IoL 1% haste will increase you maximal output by 1% (as long as you haven't reached the softcap at 3489 hasterating).

I said nothing about diminishing return. You should know the more haste you have the less casttime reduction you get, also the longer the base cast time the bigger the benefit.
As you wish i will ignore procs as they are irrelevant in this case, thought IoL will heavily favor mastery.

Originally Posted by Shockadin View Post
1% haste will increase you maximal output by 1%
This is also wrong you don't cast 1% faster, your cast only needs 1% less time.

Originally Posted by Shockadin View Post
but not affecting all healing.
It's not affecting the HoT and BoL as relevant heals. And BoL is irrelevant in the first place.

Originally Posted by Shockadin View Post
more needed combatrating for 1 mastery (179.xx masteryrating per point vs. 128.xx hasterating per percent)
You assume that that if you need more rating it's less healing, this is wrong. If you go by this numbers haste would be utterly superior. (point vs percent is taking the value out of content)

Originally Posted by Shockadin View Post
1% haste ... output by 1% ... Mastery... 1.5% more output
And here we have the opposite statement which is much in favor of mastery...
I don't mean to be sarcastic but please do not contradict yourself. Even thought mastery does indeed need more rating it is more effective than haste.

Originally Posted by Shockadin View Post
So in the case of HR the HoT-part of the healing done is at about 60%
This statement is a wrong assumption at 4 ticks the HoTs do about 70% healing of the initial heal. This is one of the reasons why mastery is stronger but even with additional ticks the healing is always bigger than the amount gained by haste and do not forget LoD here.

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