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For dual wielding
With RE the more haste we had the more reliable was our resources generation which made haste really attractive and at times (depending on gear) better that mastery.
With the blood tap priority and resources generation being more predictable and reliable, couldn't there be a kind of haste cap ? Not really a cap but a level of haste where your enough comfortable with resources generation to focus on crit instead.
Maybe am I doing something wrong but when I sim (simcraft build 505-4) stat weight with the bis profile available here (Simulationcraft Results 505-5 (r14518)), haste seems rather low compared to mastery and crit.
Strenght (3.66) > Expertise (3.61) > Hit (2.95) > Mastery (1.70) > Crit (1.40) > Haste (1.02)
In addition the % of time waiting is 0.39 % which indicates that this priority with 4338 haste is absolutely not resource starved and could rather be at times gcd cap.
In the same time when I sim with my current gear and this priority, and plays with reforge on only 3 slots ( maxing mastery in one case and haste the over ), it has a great impact on haste’s weight.
With 5505 mastery, 3090 haste, 2146 crit :
Strenght (3.35) > Expertise (2.21) > Hit (2.01) > Haste (1.44) > Mastery (1.22) > Crit (1.04)
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head=nullification_greathelm,id=85984,stats=4380armor_701crit_534haste_1719sta_906str ,gems=reverberating_primal_80str_160hit_180crit,reforge=crit_mastery
neck=ferocious_necklace_of_the_golden_lotus,id=90592,stats=323crit_485mastery_958sta_ 638str,reforge=crit_hit
shoulders=malevolent_gladiators_dreadplate_shoulders,id=84918,stats=3963armor_457exp_ 537haste_1208sta_725str,gems=80str_160mastery_60str,enchant=200str_100crit,reforge=ha ste_mastery
chest=breastplate_of_the_kings_guard,id=86076,stats=5391armor_740haste_590mastery_171 9sta_986str,gems=160str_80str_160mastery_120str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_hit
waist=klaxxi_lash_of_the_rescinder,id=89055,stats=3033armor_528crit_528mastery_1277st a_771str,gems=80str_160hit_320str_60crit,reforge=crit_haste
legs=greaves_of_the_lost_catacomb,id=85335,stats=4827armor_675exp_835mastery_1835sta_ 1143str,gems=320str_60str,enchant=285str_165crit,reforge=exp_hit
feet=angerforged_stompers,id=90912,stats=3547armor_573haste_382mastery_1131sta_754str ,enchant=140mastery,reforge=haste_hit
wrists=commanding_bracers,id=81694,stats=2155armor_381crit_254hit_752sta_501str,encha nt=170mastery,reforge=crit_mastery
hands=starcrusher_gauntlets,id=86135,stats=3370armor_553haste_486hit_1277sta_771str,g ems=80str_160hit_60haste,enchant=170str,reforge=haste_mastery,addon=synapse_springs_m ark_ii
finger1=seal_of_the_bloodseeker,id=90862,stats=485exp_323haste_958sta_638str,reforge= haste_hit
finger2=ring_of_the_golden_stair,id=89069,stats=394crit_444exp_958sta_638str,reforge= crit_mastery
trinket1=lei_shins_final_orders,id=86144,stats=1079haste,reforge=haste_mastery
trinket2=relic_of_xuen,id=79327,stats=956str
back=cloak_of_peacock_feathers,id=86753,stats=1066armor_405crit_331exp_849sta_566str, enchant=180hit,reforge=crit_mastery
main_hand=ooks_hozen_slicer,id=81061,stats=279exp_219mastery_578sta_385str,enchant=ru ne_of_razorice,reforge=exp_hit,weapon=sword_2.6speed_4434min_8236max
off_hand=ooks_hozen_slicer,id=81061,stats=279exp_219mastery_578sta_385str,enchant=run e_of_the_fallen_crusader,weapon=sword_2.6speed_4434min_8236max
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With 4639 mastery, 3956 haste, 2146 crit :
Strenght (3.34) > Expertise (2.40) > Hit (2.22) > Mastery (1.25) > Crit (1.05) > Haste (0.98)
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head=nullification_greathelm,id=85984,stats=4380armor_701crit_534haste_1719sta_906str ,gems=reverberating_primal_80str_160hit_180crit,reforge=crit_mastery
neck=ferocious_necklace_of_the_golden_lotus,id=90592,stats=323crit_485mastery_958sta_ 638str,reforge=crit_hit
shoulders=malevolent_gladiators_dreadplate_shoulders,id=84918,stats=3963armor_457exp_ 537haste_1208sta_725str,gems=80str_160mastery_60str,enchant=200str_100crit
chest=breastplate_of_the_kings_guard,id=86076,stats=5391armor_740haste_590mastery_171 9sta_986str,gems=160str_80str_160mastery_120str,enchant=80all,reforge=haste_hit
waist=klaxxi_lash_of_the_rescinder,id=89055,stats=3033armor_528crit_528mastery_1277st a_771str,gems=80str_160hit_320str_60crit,reforge=crit_haste
legs=greaves_of_the_lost_catacomb,id=85335,stats=4827armor_675exp_835mastery_1835sta_ 1143str,gems=320str_60str,enchant=285str_165crit,reforge=exp_hit
feet=angerforged_stompers,id=90912,stats=3547armor_573haste_382mastery_1131sta_754str ,enchant=140mastery,reforge=haste_hit
wrists=commanding_bracers,id=81694,stats=2155armor_381crit_254hit_752sta_501str,encha nt=170mastery,reforge=crit_mastery
hands=starcrusher_gauntlets,id=86135,stats=3370armor_553haste_486hit_1277sta_771str,g ems=80str_160hit_60haste,enchant=170str,addon=synapse_springs_mark_ii
finger1=seal_of_the_bloodseeker,id=90862,stats=485exp_323haste_958sta_638str,reforge= haste_hit
finger2=ring_of_the_golden_stair,id=89069,stats=394crit_444exp_958sta_638str,reforge= crit_mastery
trinket1=lei_shins_final_orders,id=86144,stats=1079haste
trinket2=relic_of_xuen,id=79327,stats=956str
back=cloak_of_peacock_feathers,id=86753,stats=1066armor_405crit_331exp_849sta_566str, enchant=180hit,reforge=crit_mastery
main_hand=ooks_hozen_slicer,id=81061,stats=279exp_219mastery_578sta_385str,enchant=ru ne_of_razorice,reforge=exp_hit,weapon=sword_2.6speed_4434min_8236max
off_hand=ooks_hozen_slicer,id=81061,stats=279exp_219mastery_578sta_385str,enchant=run e_of_the_fallen_crusader,weapon=sword_2.6speed_4434min_8236max
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So this tells me that between 3100 and 4000 there is a kind of threshold where haste becomes less attractive with my current gear, but I suppose that it will be similar with the bis gear.
I am not able to plot anything on my pc to go further, graphs are not displaying (don’t know why) and I am not that comfortable with simcraft.
Does anyone else have noted something similar ? Or I have miss something.
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