Infraction for Felheim: Useless Post

◊ Kaubel · 06/20/07, 2:24 PM

Post: Retadin use in raids?
User: Felheim
Infraction: Useless Post
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

<insert class> <insert spec> is useless isn't an argument.

One more post resembling the past two will get you permabanned, so my advice is to bring something to the thread with some substance and not "I've looked up numbers."

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Cathela

If you're going to make a post that adds absolutely nothing to the conversation, please try to at least minimize the amount of space you waste by not including a large chunk of quoted text.

You may consider it a useless post, but I don't. I condensed my opinion to a single sentence for the purpose of clarity. It was a straight-forward observation I was sure would be met with the shaking heads of many paladins, but I didn't expect a warning just because they don't agree. However it appears you weren't content with no elaboration, so here it is.

I'm of the opinion that a paladin taking a spec and position in a raid with the intent of playing the role of DPS is doing so at the detriment of the raid. It's not an opinion I've based off of hearsay or sweeping generalisations either, I've looked up numbers and I've even raided alongside paladins who insisted on assuming a damage role. Each time I'd notice that the raid would have an easier time if the paladin in question were replaced by x class or were y spec.

Paladins can issue a lot damage to be sure, but they're not able to output a sustainable amount of DPS that would put them anywhere close to a warrior, rogue or even shaman. Sure they come with added utility in the form of blessings, cleanse and other factors which increase the rest of the raid's DPS, but with at least two to three holy paladins in the raid already, it's not necessary enough to warrant a net loss in total raid DPS. The sustainability isn't there.

If you don't agree with me, or you feel you're capable of matching your DPS counterparts, then feel free to say so, but getting all hot and bothered because you disagree isn't furthering the discussion anymore than my purportedly 'useless' posts.