06/20/07, 8:09 PM
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Infraction for Splatter: Grammar
Post: Rage generation and the Prot Warrior
User: Splatter
Infraction: Grammar
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Originally Posted by giov
Hi all,
What I miss in this discussion, regardless theorycrafting , is the FUN factor.
It is no FUN for me to not improve overall , but only regarding future raids where you have to have more ACC, more STA, more everything. I play for FUN and as it is I enjoy the PvE aspect of progression, but after I am done with it there is nothing left for me. You all talk about T5/6 etc, well I have rage issue with my poor Kara gear in heroics. Not in all ofc.
So, the main question for developers should be if its FUN or NOT? or if I should be able to join my undergeared friends and play with them with the gear I gathered ?
I dont think their answer can be: "yes you shouldnt", but I also belive that it is a BIG issue and you wont see a band aid anytime soon, because frankly - and you know it - would require to many resources and time.
Once again, it can be the most genious tanking mechanic in place, if its not FUN ,well, not many would play along that line hence the lack of warriors tanks imho. Why do you think they burn out so quick (same issue with healers), or rotate in guild between dps and tanking. My answer, because its not fun on the long run. Sure there are other aspects of the game, but looking from this point of view as the OP mentioned, I repeat, it is not fun, at least for me.
regards
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Nice point!
How long is it fun to work for progress and gear i only need to handle the next step? A rogue gets his gear to deal more and more dps what is needed in solo pve, pvp and raids. What about us tanks. Yes now i am toled (like always) i can switch to duel wield and spam devaste. I know that and i can easy outdps some od our mages and warlocks at aran, but is it fun to stiwch to zerk stance and use skills not powered by my talents (excluding devastate)? For me it is no fun.
Why is a Tank not allowed to deal about 70% of the damage a full DD does? Even with plenty rage. Ok rogues would have no more chance againt a prot warrior but what class can i beat else? Any caster is not interested in my armor class and spellreflect is usable for off warriros like it is for me with the difference the off warrior can easy get those 25 rage.
I have to farm 2 gears to deal some dmg because only ONE skill (shield slam) benefits of my defence values.
We need more talents/styles benefiting from our def gear to deal dmg. And blizzard knows that because they changed revenge already. Now i deal about 250 dps in def gear while i deal 400 dps in off gear. But fighting melee mobs in off gear is a stupid idea because i get plenty more dmg but only +150 dps. So overall i will have to sit down and eat a lot of time and faming in def gear is faster (i got my netherdrake and farmed every day and often solo - i tested it and i was about 33% faster in def gear).
What we realy need is some talent that scales with our prot gear and deals much dmg. Off warrios get more and more AP, crit, hit and better weapons so all styles benefit from there gear. My AP will rise in a way i will not recognice on my white hits (maybe from 800 to 1100 - no big difference at all), i am not able to get much crit and +hit is not often found on def items. So we need some style converting avoidence in dps.
For example something like:
"Headnut
10 Rage - Melee range
Instant - 6 seconds CD
After 3 dodges or parries you are able to deal an instant headnut hitting your enemy for 5% of your armor class. Also causes a high amount of threat."
Just some funny style ^^ i would love the animation
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