08/17/07, 5:30 PM
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Infraction for Ambico: General Idiocy
Post: [Mage] How Can Arcane Damage Work?
User: Ambico
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 1
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Too much u not enough substance
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Original Post:

Originally Posted by ebbv
I tried 40/0/21 in anticipation of Al'ar this past week. Including last night's SSC run of the first 4 bosses.
I found myself struggling to keep neck and neck with our 10/48/3 Mages who have similar gear to mine, and whom as 10/48/3 I'm normally ahead of. Even when I was doing full-out Arcane Blast spam I was barely keeping even with Fireball spam.
I apologize for not having WWS parses available, when I get 2 piece T5 and give it another go I will make sure to do so.
I was more than a little disappointed with this, and am now planning to try out deep frost for Al'ar instead of Arcane/Frost.
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I should add that part of my poor performance was my unwillingness to re-replace my Veiled Noble Topaz with Potent. So I had a lot more hit than Arcane really needs. All the same, I was disappointed that Arcane Blast spam didn't blow Fireball spam out of the water.
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Ok...why in heavens name would u spam arcane blast and have that much talents in frost. My mage is specced 40/0/21 and im pretty much always up there on dps. doin gruul or another boss w all my buffs every crit i get w/ a frostbolt = 4.5k+, reaching a high of 6.1k w/ arcane power. having a shadow priest does help but unfortunately attendance issues doesnt allow that at times.
Being deep arcane doesnt mean that u have to use arcane spells...some people spec deep arcane to utilize some of its other talents such as arcane power, pom (instant pyro or even frostbolt in my case every 3 mins when a boss usually lasts longer doesnt sound too bad), the arcane mind and mind mastery combo, clearcasting, etc.
Full frost, yes, isnt too great for raid dps but i dont know why people keep shittin on the frost tree basically ignorin the fact that it exists. 2.5 second cast on frostbolts vs 3 second cast on a fireball, not to mention the fact that fire mages have to keep scorch stacked in order to fully be efficient (pyro blasts shouldnt even be a discussion in raids unless u have pom for it, either way i think its as waste of a talent). Im not sayin that this spec is better than the 10/48/3 spec the many arrogant mages have proposed, im just sayin that the 40/0/21 spec could be just as useful (if not better) if used correctly.
I have +1092 frost dmg unbuffed and w/o a couple enchants or some other gear that i want pre scc. Buffed its like +1350 and it goes way higher than that w/ arcane power and trinkets. I think it might be the best raid spec if u want to enter into the frost tree. Check my tree out on armory for the frost talent. (Ambico -- Arthas Alliance)
Dont sh*t on this spec w/o havin tried it or givin an open mind about it. After all u wont really know what's best if u dont try everything out. I've never really seen any mage w/ my same spec which is quite odd, but understandable seeing as to how everybody has this misconception that fire is automatically best. KEEP AN OPEN MIND =b.
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