Infraction for gnuoyiy: Profile Infraction

Greybone · 09/13/07, 4:07 PM

Post: Arena Weapons
User: gnuoyiy
Infraction: Profile Infraction
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Fix your profile.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Lodekim

gnuoyiy: Do you really need to go around with dictionary definitions to try to say my point is invalid because you think my definition of competition doesn't count? I compete with every other player in the game to be as good as I can compared to them, my guild does the same. Even when a world first is gone, the idea that you can do better in the next race is still competition. Raiding is competitive for some people. Period. You can not call it not competitive because as soon as some people take it as competitive your point is gone.

Secondly, it seems your profile is lying, and you're stretching things. The only level 70 character on armory with the name you give is a dwarf warrior in Eminence on Blackrock, not in Nuclear Launch Detected on Bloodscalp, and if that is indeed you, you have Friendly rep with scale of the sands and Ashtounge Deathsworn, barely in with Scale, that's not representative of a common raider in a Mother Shahraz guild, that doesn't show a dedicated raider.

The truth is that in order to be a fully contributing member of a raiding guild you're expected to have the best items available to you. If a rogue hasn't gotten the drops that are better than season 2 they're expected to have season 2. Come season 3 if there's a rating requirement, that means you have to pvp and pvp well to raid unless you're lucky, which is just as bad as saying you need to raid and raid well to pvp effectively.

I already said I was wrong when I said raiding wasn't competitive, but the competition doesn't have as large an effect as a team vs. team competition as opposed to team vs. mob.

Ok, Sherlock Holmes. If there is only one gnuoyiy on the U.S. and one gnuoyiy on these forums, it's probably me. I didn't bother to change my guild name on these forums because I don't care what people think? My reputation with BT/Hyjal doesn't show I'm a dedicated raider? Probably because I just started getting raid slots 8 days ago...That doesn't mean I don't know anything about raiding or I probably wouldn't be invited to said raids would I? Maybe if you checked the DKP on our site, you'd see what I've been raiding and when I started...hmmm. I've been raiding consistently for almost 3 years now. I've also been PVPing consistently for 3 years now. Raiding and arena are the only reasons I still play this game, so I think I'd understand both sides of the argument. I think my experience with both aspects of the discussion (PVP and PVE) brings a better viewpoint to it.

The truth is a fully contributing member of a raiding guild will get raid slots regardless of gear if they're good at the game. If that person dislikes PVP, then they don't need to PVP if they do not wish to. If there is no incentive for them to do it then they shouldn't do it. If they cannot acquire the necessary rating, then this will do exactly what you're asking for, won't it? You want PVP weapons to not be necessary for raiders, the rating requirement will do exactly that. It will be nice for the raiders who can obtain them, but it will become unnecessary as people should be aware that some players do not enjoy and cannot perform well in PVP.

As has been said, one slot of gear of an entire character of an entire raid will not make a raid leaps and bounds better...but it will help and give an advantage. The same can be said with raid drops and PVP (rings, trinkets, cloak, neck, bracers, belt, AND weapons, etc.). Now you see, there is more crossover from PVE drops to PVP as listed above when pure DPS is desired after a certain level of resilience(which it is in 5v5), but I won't get into that. These slots of gear will not make your arena team leaps and bounds better, but it will help and give an advantage.