10/24/07, 8:01 PM
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Infraction for Blacklisted: Grammar
Post: [Rogue]The Combat vs Hemo Point of Inflection
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Infraction: Grammar
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"ur" isn't a word and your posts lack capitalization.
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Originally Posted by Vulajin
I modeled the new Hemorrhage in my personal DPS spreadsheet using the following method:
3) The hemo/swords build with 2/2 W.Ex. and 1/2 Dirty Deeds gives a theoretical output of 1485.16 after the Hemo debuff. This is an increase of 41.77 (+2.89%) over the combat swords build. Note that Dirty Deeds is simply modeled as a 10% increase per point on special damage 35% of the time (thus it is slightly overvalued).
4) The hemo/swords build with 1/2 W.Ex. and 2/2 Dirty Deeds gives a theoretical output of 1484.44 after the Hemo debuff. This is an increase of 41.04 (+2.84%) over the combat swords build. Recall that Dirty Deeds is slightly overvalued; even still, trading one point of Weapon Expertise for one point of Dirty Deeds is found to be suboptimal. From now on, therefore, we shall only consider builds with 2/2 W.Ex. and 1/2 Dirty Deeds.
Conclusions: 11/28/22 swords may very well be quite competitive with combat swords for DPS. It certainly might not be a bad investment to have one Hemo rogue in a raid, depending on quite a lot of factors of your physical DPS classes, including their crit rates, abilities used, and armor penetration. 11/20/30 will be slightly inferior to 11/28/22 with swords, but for other weapon types, it will be superior. Finally, 2/2 Weapon Expertise is likely more important and a higher priority for any combat/sub hybrid build than 2/2 Dirty Deeds.
(edit) Additionally, it does seem that 2.6 is sufficient speed for Hemo to function, even though it's not what we would normally consider "slow." [Blade of Infamy] proves to be roughly as good for an 11/28/22 build as [Talon of Azshara] and [Vengeful Gladiator's Slicer]. Of course, the MH Warglaive is by far the best Hemo weapon, but even with the Talon, Hemo damage is quite comparable to combat swords (at least assuming I've modeled it even remotely accurately).
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sorry for cutting up ur post, but i just wanted to note that the 11/20/30 spec is probably better dps by using 11/21/29 with blade flurry and only 4/5 deadliness.
also, would the hemo sword build be better at 11/27/23, keeping 2/2 wEx like you said, but dumping 1 point from sword spec to get 2/2 dirty deeds?
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