Infraction for bamsemats: General Idiocy

Kaubel · 01/15/08, 10:45 AM

Post: Roguecraft 101
User: bamsemats
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Opinions aren't going to fly in the face of actual stats and math and the combined experience of dozens of seasoned raiders. So you're either going to present some hard numbers or you're going to stop posting.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Scheme

If you're going to say something like this, you need to back it up with actual evidence and the math to support it. Saying "I'm bad at math but this is what I feel, based on very limited testing, and with no logs or parses to back me up" isn't going to cut it.

I never said that this would be something anyone else had to try out. I never stated that I had any theorcrafting evidence to back me up, but instead I saw the result in a real raid instead of imagining it on a sheet. Why do you state that I need data to back something up when I'm not making an offensive statement? I've tried something out, and now I gave my opinion about it and also made a notice about something on this forum that I think is incorrect. To say that I would have 12% less dps as shadowstep in comparassion to a combat sword-rogue is not only decieving, it's alot very unclear.

There are alot of things that could go wrong in a raid; The target is not always stable, you're not always able to hit it, it could be immune to poison/bleed, it could debuff you making your do less dps, etc etc... Just making statements like this, and not allowing others to make their own unless they do it by your standards, is just ignorant. Communism works on paper too, I'd think that alot of people would say that the actual thing aint the same.

You can calculate alot on these papers, but you fail to interact it with the human factor and, quite honestly, that's the biggest difference you'll ever find between players.

If you're wondering about me "feeling" better with this specc, what's so wrong about that? I saw that my DPS was solid, as high as it usually is, and it went without mistakes. With a sword combat specc there are alot of things that can go wrong, if you put a piece of your dps on your AR you'd also lose alot of dps if you'd get imobilized, feared, stunned or something like that whilest you have your AR up.

Theorycrafting is good in itself, but you cant rely 100% on it when you want to actually raid yourself. For instance: When looking up the ZA swords and comparing them to MG swords I came up with the result that the ZA swords would be "worth" more and cause higher dps than the MG ones. When I tried it out, guess what? It didnt fall through.
These numbers are all still put together by some people, meaning that these people can make mistakes filling in these numbers. I dont care how carefully you calculate, it's not gonna be as accurate as you may think. Testing it over and over again is the best way to actually see any difference between different gear and / or specc.