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Old 05/16/08, 1:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Infraction for Veritasxx: Grammar

Post: [Hunter] SURVIVAL Raiding in 2.1
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Infraction: Grammar
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Originally Posted by Whitefyst View Post
I agree and disagree. Hit rating is very important, but I agree that in many cases, depending on what gear/gem options that you have to tradeoff between to get fully hit capped, that just being close (within 4 to 5 HR) can often result in better DPS that getting fully capped. This is a case by case basis though and not a hard and fast rule.

Sure the pauldrons are good if you need the HR from them; however, there are many better DPS shoulders, including the s2 (and s3 if you have the arena rating), [Shoulders of the Hidden Predator], and [Gronnstalker's Spaulders]. All of these, with the exception of the s2 shoulders have much better DPS and all have at least slightly better to much better EW AP benefits.



Here is where you are providing some major misinformation. At least for my 0/20/41 spec (which of course has higher crit rating than your spec) and other gear, [Berserker's Call] is so much better than [Tsunami Talisman] and [Hourglass of the Unraveller]. It has 7.1 and 10.0 better DPS and 0.6 and 0.5 better EW AP, respectively. I agree that [Hourglass of the Unraveller] is an awesome blue but even [Bloodlust Brooch] is slightly better for me as long as I am using it frequently. Unfortunately, I do not have [Tsunami Talisman], which is better than [Bloodlust Brooch] for me, or else I would be wearing it along with [Berserker's Call] as my trinkets until I gear enough to start doing a 2:1 rotation.

If I use your spec with my gear, [Bloodlust Brooch] and [Berserker's Call] are even more better than [Hourglass of the Unraveller]. They have about 4 and 11 more personal DPS at a lost of only 0.7 EW AP for overall raid DPS gain.

I also like the fact that I can control when I use these trinkets to use them in conjuction with haste effects to get even more DPS gains from them.

Hence, many of us have very valid reasons for using trinkets other than [Hourglass of the Unraveller], especially considering how much better [Berserker's Call] is for most hunter spec and gear combinations.
pvp shoulders are awful, obviously T6 shoulders are great and something to grab in a second with your hit permitting, but using the 2hander in order to do so i dont see it as being viable. that would be nerfing yourself from doing so much more potential dmg and having that 20 hit on shoulders is amazing with the same agil as . as for your thoughts on the trinkets it makes me absolutely crazy to see people say things like that. the hourglass is amazing, its gods gift to survival hunters. a blue that can never be outdone by hardly anything. if your having troubles with the proc on it then you should (no offense) learn how to play your class better period. paying attention and being ready for a proc is something that can change a lot of things. Ive recently gotten DST and it procs a shit ton, nearly every 30secs. using rapid fire/drums at the same time as DST going off is awesome because it puts me at a 1.4 shot speed and it destroys everything. being able to adjust to haste increases and such is something rogues/warriors/shamans have to do everytime mongoose goes off. beserkers call gives 20more AP from the use and no crit so its pointless to grab it over TT or hourglass. also the hit on TT is priceless giving you 10more hit to not worry about in gems/items.

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that is the hunter on my current realm that knows his shit and tops the dps meter as survival time and time again all through BT while still throwing out the extra AP from EW. ive seen lots of people use macros for their shot rotation and thats retarded. the shot rotation is never goign to be the same, its always changing your always moving around throwing stingers and arc shots when moving so i have no reason to believe its even worth testing. it dumbs the game down.

if you eve have questions about my theory on anything please feel free to make a toon on Terokkar realm, im always open to survival discussion and may talk your ear off if your curious about something. also feel free to check out any WWS at our guild forums, im not always on my hunter cuz sometimes i have to step in and tank since we have 1 pally tank that cant always make it but 90% of the time im pewing.
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