06/27/08, 3:16 PM
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Infraction for Avitus: General Idiocy
Post: [Paladin] Retribution DPS Theorycraft
User: Avitus
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 1
Administrative Note:
Message to User:
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You've been around long enough to know about excessive quote-splitting.
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Original Post:
Originally Posted by flyingtoastr
Come now Avitus. Melee classes already have major problems with ret pallys due to armor and lack of snareability, the dodge chance is negligible.
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5% dodge is 5% dodge. It's a buff that shouldn't be downplayed.
Originally Posted by flyingtoastr
Your crits are going to be just as worthless against a hoy pally with mongoose up as without.
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Eh, no? And: Vengeance.
Originally Posted by flyingtoastr
And the haste from Mongoose really is nearly worthless.
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You can't handle haste like you are trying to. As explained by others, it cuts both ways.
Originally Posted by flyingtoastr
You are incorrect in stating that Rawr will tell you where to use Executioner and where to use Mongoose. Rawr has no idea how to handle Executioner. There is a massive difference between 210 passive armor penetration and 840 burst.
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Read up, I actually said it slightly undervalues it. The difference isn't as massive as you think, though I hope changes to Rawr will shed some better light on where it lies exactly.
Originally Posted by flyingtoastr
And if we're going to use the "you need x debuffs QQ" argument; mongoose crits are also lowered in damage when the boss doesn't have those up.
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There's a very large difference between when those aren't up for Mongoose and when they aren't up for Executioner. "Exponential increase" and all that, remember?
Look, I don't really have a problem with Executioner as an enchant, however there are certain things like PvP where it's a clear cut win for Mongoose at least in my eyes. For PvE Executioner seems a pretty situational enchant to me, with a lot of flaky dependencies and minimal benefit when all dependencies are met, so why bother? Unless I'm really focusing my gear on ArmPen as a primary stat, I wouldn't get Executioner.
Aramul, you got PM 
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