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1) Lightning Bolt Capacitor
IMO the best 3 trinkets in game are the Skull of Guldan, Hex Lord Trinket, and the LBC (not counting the Sunwell trinket). So out of these 4 trinkets, what are the BEST TWO IN GAME? I was personally thinking it could be the Muru Trinket and the Skull of Guldan. But LBC scales *so* weird. Can we get a definative answer on this finally? If you go read the Enhancement thread, they break down all of the trinkets over the gear levels definatively. Something like that would be VERY nice to have as a resource for everyone. Not to mention the groundwork in answering these questions would make any new itemization (in WoLK for example) much easier to answer.

2) Spell Haste (caps)
There has to be a point where Spell Haste falls to a lower value than Spell Damage. THE QUESTION HOWEVER is whether that point/value is achievable? Meaning, do you ever have to say no more haste when at Sunwell level itemization. Spell haste will overall increase my DPS more than Spell Damage. But when you get to the 400+ rating level, what should be the minimum spell damage? Or will spell haste (in achievable gear) always win out?

3) 4/1 vs LB spam
I still do not have an answer to this question. Every raid environment situation I go into changes up by some variable and Dr. BOOM is not a viable testing method. I am so aggravated with this now, if you guys can come up with a truly controlled viable test method, you tell me what it is and I will bribe guild mates into doing the damn test so I can just know. I've seen LB spam jump to 2.2k+ dps and drop as low as 1500 dps. I've got no controlled environment to remove crit variables, etc... (**Keep in mind this question is directed for high end haste toons, not for low end haste toons.**)
I don't have yet top of the line gear, but im getting close with 352 spell haste.
The questions above that Everwatch has asked is very similar for my situation.

I can't really tell if LB spam or 4LB/CL is better. I cannot tell if skycall > ancestral guidance better. I cannot tell if TLC is one our best trinket or not. I tried a mix of everything on brut attempt, but I cannot conclude anything because of randomness.

Lately, I was thinking that since, I believe, TLC LBs proc skycall, and since skycall uptime means more casts it may help TLC procs faster ? So maybe skycall and TLC can proc each other for a nasty combo especially with 400+ haste?

So I tried that combo, skycall with TLC and got 1879 DPS on brut. had 1 heroism and 1 burn. I dont have any WWS to compare to, but looking at previous attemps I cannot tell the difference (Im usually around 1700-2000 dps with 1 heroism).

This makes my head hurts and Im thinking of making simulator in Java or C++ to find the scaling of those trinkets, and the question marks I have !

Anyone with more input on this ?

(Oh about spell haste and spell damage, since the breakpoint is not yet defined, and since I'm still getting new gear, I decided to go all Reckless Pyrestone route, since spell damage, haste and crit scales together and so far seems to work great, at least until I get more gear from sunwell)
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