Infraction for Poor: Grammar

LodeRunner · 07/09/08, 3:03 PM

Post: [Shadow Priest] Help me melt faces!
User: Poor
Infraction: Grammar
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Stop the excessive quote splitting. It's unnecessary and makes your posts suck.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by tedv:804445

I won't go into the math, but trust me that this is a bad idea. Use mind blast first and then death, and trust that your general vampiric embrace healing will keep you mostly topped off. A druid can toss you a HoT once every 20 seconds.

I'd seen a few other posts where people suggest doing them in reverse order to help negate the kickback. I'll trust that I'll be able to heal myself.

Originally Posted by tedv:804445

When you said "I'm not in the soak group" I originally thought you meant "I'm not taking burns like the rest of my group is", but it sounds like no one in your group is taking burns. That's a flat out mistake on a number of levels.

What I meant is "I'm not taking meteor slashes like the rest of my group is".

Just to clarify, Our groups are pretty much like you've got them, The only people who are not in the soak groups are a shadow priest and the melee. We have two groups of 9-10 soaking which include healers. I normally stand with the melee but close enough to my group so that they are getting hit with VE and VT.

I'm not saying the entire group isn't getting burned because it's completely random as to who gets it. What I meant was that the only incoming damage to me on a typical fight is the kickback damage from SWD and burn damage. (IF I get burned)

Originally Posted by tedv

When we bring 2 tanks, 14 pure DPS, 7 healers and 2 shadow priests to Brutallus, we're actually bringing 15.5 DPS and 9 healers. Combined with the 2 tanks, that's like bringing 26.5 people to a 25 man raid. Your problem is that you're still bringing 25 people instead of 26.5.

We have to bring more healers than most guilds seem to. We bring in 8 healers (4 tank healers, 2 shaman for soak group healing, and a shaman/druid for burns), 2 tanks, 14 pure DPS and one shadow priest. Going back and looking at the WWS, the only healer I outhealed was the shaman on burns. With how healing typically goes in our raids, I'd be afraid to even attempt to drop a healer at this point in time.

Originally Posted by tedv

A mage without a shadow priest on this fight will absolutely run bone dry on mana, costing the raid tons of damage. It's well worth swapping one DPS class for a priest that deals 800 DPS less if that means the raid as a whole deals 2000 DPS more.

We combat mages going OOM with innervates normally. Since one of the druids is in my group getting VT he doesn't need it for himself, The feral tank is responsible for another innervate and the third druid is the burn healer. I'm not sure if mages get better benefit from innervate or from VT. It could be that we're just using a sub-optimal raid set-up because of our healing inadequacies. I will bring this up tonight for sure.