Infraction for Kel S'jet: Trolling

Kaubel · 07/13/08, 12:28 PM

Post: [Mage] WotLK Talent Preview / Discussion
User: Kel S'jet
Infraction: Trolling
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

You can either report posts that are off-topic or misinformation, or you can not read the thread. However, a long-winded post from a relatively new poster about how stupid everyone is isn't exactly going to stimulate a productive discussion, nor is it going magically get things back on track.

On a related note, these forums began almost exclusively from an end-game, raiding viewpoint, so pissing and moaning that that is the focus of discussion is pretty much showing you should probably lurk more before deciding what is and isn't appropriate.

Original Post:

TBQH, I am shocked at the turn this thread has taken. It has turned into a cesspool of a pathetic display of ball size by the vast majority of you.

You are all placing way WAY to much importance in your 'theorycraft'. You are so obsessed with pushing your own agendas that you have forgotten where you are. And then, to top it all off, some dude pulls a completely random statement out of his arse with no proof whatsoever (the statement being, "Oh blizzard doesn't do any thoerycraft they just throw sh!t together and see what happens") and since that statement works towards your own personal goals you all eat it up and begin stroking each others cocks.
The "oh players know more about the game then the designers" is just a big phat icing on this already sour cake.

How do you feel you can all make such immensely bold statements about how much you know vs. how much the blizzard devs know about the game without providing or even attempting to provide any proof?

And 'time'? You honestly believe blizzard does not have the 'time' for theorycrafting? They hire people whose job it is to do nothing but TC all day long, and those dudes get paid for it (and there is proof for that statement, the proof being that Kalgan has already stated that they hired a guy with a PhD in competitive systems to do nothing but 'balance' the arena systems point scoring scheme, you honestly think they would hire a guy to do nothing but look and analyze and 'theorycraft' something as small as the arena point system, but have no one looking at the class numbers? Ignorance).
But no, I can already see the rage in your eyes building up as you are reading my words now, naturally, as you epeen size is beginning to shrink. So listen up.

Every system is flawed. This is a mathematically proven fact, not a statement (go google Godel if you want proof). Given this fact, yes, there will be elements of the wow class system that will be overlooked since it is such a fringe possibility. All outcomes will never be fully determined (and therefore, handled) at the creation of a system. Now go ahead and add the complexity to this by the fact that the system itself mutates at every iteration and you will then begin to see what you are dealing with.

However the biggest oversight almost all you have missed is that you are all content with raids. raids raids raids raids raids. You eat, sleep and fart raids. But the point is, blizzard does not (*shocker*). To them, the 'theorycrafting' of the mage has to occur on mutiple levels, pve, pvp, arena, solo, grps, heroics, farming, as well as multiple dimensions, i.e. the weighing up of all these levels against all other classes and specs.

No, the 'theorycrafting' you do is simple, it is easy and I hope to high heavens that it is not the TC that blizzard does since yours is so unthinkably limited.

And as far as the players knowing more about the game than the devs goes, it is probably one of the most retarded things I have heard here on EJ. Something much much more akin to the kak that occurs on the official forums.

The only situation that a player can even hope to achieve insight into the game on a level comparable to the devs is when they have mastered every single class in every single scenario/situation that the game has to offer. Only then can they say that their "experience" has granted them to start designing stuff. All their experience is good for before that point, is feedback to the people who are designing the game. Linus' law my ass, Torvalds was as high on himself as you guys are when he made his statement a "law".

In short, wake the fuck up plz, kkthxbai