Originally Posted by Mumbles

I read the vigilance things regarding future changes, i just spoke about it's place in the talent tree, and as another example of talents which are not directed (or primarily directed) to raiding.

I second everything you said, and fully agree regarding the raiding spots for tanks, my 'rant' or 'whine' if you prefer, was towards not wanting a prot warrior at all, simply because they bring no raid utility, and, as far as we know at the moment, there is no game combat mechanic that favours the protection warrior.
I'm not saying I want fights that can only be done with protection warriors or favour them allot more than others, what I would like in WotLK is a requirement for a balanced raid group which can complete the whole instance without changes in raid composition along the way, in order to defeat a goal, all tanks should be wanted exactly the same, running raids with, preferably, 1 tank of each class/spec which would be the optimum situation, but in the case of absences the ability to have for example, a feral druid replacing the missing protection warrior for that raid without a big penalty to the progression of the raid.

The way I see it now (disclaimer, I know it's going to be looked at, this is just my personal opinion of how things are as we know it) is that in min max hardcore guilds that want to down bosses at all costs, a protection warrior wouldn't bring any more benefit than any of all other tanks, because of they're lack of raid utility and the ability of the other tanks to be able to do the job the same or even better than a protection warrior.

Best regards,