Infraction for nightcrowler: Grammar

Kaubel · 07/30/08, 5:00 PM

Post: [Druid] Feral talents/abilities - WotLK preview / discussion
User: nightcrowler
Infraction: Grammar
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Original Post:

Hi all.
This is the first time i wrote here, but I want to share with you my theorycraft.

I've made a direct simulation with all the theorycraft knowledge we have at the moment about scaling, ability, procs, etc.. for cat druid dps.

Disclaimer: This is a direct simulation, not a spreasheet, I really made a "virtual cat" attacking a boss.

I've put in all the talents and all the possible cycles, I've also tryied many different value for stats, but in a wide range the best cycle is always the same!

Those are my result:

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Base Stats and buff:

10k ap, 30% crit, all the relevant buffs except feral aggression (we will see it later) and no special bonuses or trinkets, 9% hit, 0 expertise, Wind fury buff.
The boss has after sunder & co, 30% damage reduction from armor.

You also have to Powershift every time is needed (basically about 1-2 time x cycle).

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BEST cycle:

2 SR / 4 RIP (where 2 means 2 or 3 depending on crit and for means 4-5 depending on crit).

also: mangle always up, use shred for other attacks, don't use rip.

DPS: 2821 (if you have trauma and it stacks with mangle, will be about 2922).

now let's see what we loose removing talents (all talents up except the one removed):

Ability, DPS, Loss, Loss x Talent Point

NO Rend&Tea, 2776, 1,6%, 0.3%
NO NSS, 2724, 3.4%, 1.7%
NO Predatory Instinct, 2696, 4.4%, 0.9%
No ImpMangle, 2648, 6.1%, 2.0%
No Fury, 2781, 1.4%, 0.7%
No Precision, 2739, 2.9% 1.5%

Now with all talents up, try other cycles.

using 2SR/4RIP + rake: 2740
using 2SR/4FB + rake: 2771
using 2SR/4FB or RIP: 2772
using 4RIP/4FB: 2414
using 4RIP/4FB +rake: 2428
using 4RIP: 2584

using value different from 2 cp for SR is always a loss.
using value differnet from 4 cp for FB and RIP is always a loss.

On a side note with the "perfect cycle" you will have 35% white, 65% yellow damage.
WF only increase by 3% the relative value of our white damage because it also increase ooc proc and it increase yellow damage.
I've used Tiger Fury with KoJ every time I could.
I've Never used Berserk.

EDIT:
Having 5/5 Ferocity, the best cycle that use FB is 2SR / 4RIP or 4FB (if RIP is going on) but it gives (with the previous stats) only 4 dps increase (LOL)! With 50% crit and hit and expertise capped the situation is, strangely, not better but worse. The 2SR/4RIP cycle will give 3242 dps, the 2SR / 4RIP or 4FB (if RIP is going on) will give only 3149 dps.

On a side note, I've tested the cycles in a range of 7k-12k ap, 25%-50% crit, 6%-9% hit, 0-20 expertise. 2SR/4RIP is the best cycle in all ranges.

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I've runned very different simulation and in a large range, effectivelly I've prolly exagerated the ap and put a too low crit %.

x-SR/4RIP is the better cycle if u powershift and if you don't. It's also the best cycle indipendently from crit % and ap. What changes is the value of "x"
increasing ap and increasing crit % decrease the value of x.
Where the minimum is about 2 for high crit and/or high ap.
For low crit/ap (for example 6000 ap and 38% crit, the value I personally expect to have the day of expansion) 3SR/4RIP is more suitable but not by a big margin (20dps difference).

If you want to give me some value of hit, expertise, damage reduction, ap and crit % I can run some simulation for you

As for the code is simple.

I used the combat table (2 roll system for yellow) and an If..then method for the attack with the standard c++ RNG generator for the attack.