Infraction for T.K.: Grammar

• LodeRunner · 08/14/08, 2:56 PM

Post: [Enhance Shaman] WotLK Talents and spells discussion.
User: T.K.
Infraction: Grammar
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Holy pointless backstory Batman! Also, the letter 'i', when used as a pronoun, will need to be capitalized.

Original Post:

Ok, so i have been checking this thread in particular hoping for some good ol' theorycrafting being done here so we could check in advance what is awaiting us at the other side of the expansion, even more considering i wasn't lucky enough to get a beta key :/

Being more and more dissapointed each time i checked this, i came to the point i couldn't go on without posting. So, sorry in advance for posting something that should already be in this thread:

One of the first thoughts and things said about Wrath, when they first started talking about it, was that they had a clear patamar and evidence to say that one of the biggest problems in TBC were tanks. From the very first beginning they talked about revamping tanking and how tanking and tanks in general would be adressed even more than they were already in TBC with paladins and feralz improving a lot in that direction.
If i remember, and i know people in here will correct me if i'm wrong, since the first presentations and discussions they knew from the start that the problem that tanks normally had a high demand with low offer, due to the "suckage" of using a tank specc to do anything besides tanking (less for feralz, but still true at some degree). They knew, as well, how a Fury or Arms warrior or a Ret or Holy paladin or a Balance or a Resto druid couldn't tank as well and as such, you were pidgeonholed to use your char for instances/raids and use alts or respecc to do anything else.

I'll say as well, that since i heard that Blizz was releasing a new class; since it's concept and presentation; since we firstly "WHOA" at it; it's being talked as a new tank class. It's been said to be introduced to help normalize the concern about the lack of tanks in the overall servers in WoW. It's been built to do so. Tank.

With their new concept of tanking speccs being able to farm and do other shit (even dps at instances or something alike, using DPS gear with tank specc) it really doesn't surprise me that DK trees are mixed with dps talents and tank talents along it. That's in line with Fury and Arms receiving tanking improvements and prot, as promissed by them, gonna receive some more dps boost.

Although we still have many "imbalances" inside the class mechanic and powers, i find that TBC was pretty good overall for the shaman class. We became one of the top dps hyrids out there, and my experience might be short, but besides a handfull few individuals scatered all over the world WWS parses i checked, i couldn't find arms/fury warrs, feral druids or retadins doing the same level of dps i output. And i have seen other enhancers doing a lot more damage than me, so i'm using my experience as a low ballmark.

I have been raiding for all TBC with a foreign speaking language to me and before i was accepted in there they didn't even allow people from my nationality in there, not for racism or whatever, but because of language barrier. I proved to them i was worth my trial and after more than a year at the guild, i proved many times i worth my salt. They yellat me when i miss raids.

So, could anyone in here, please, explain to me why we're even bothering to waste our times discussing if a TANK-oriented class will or will not replace our DPS-oriented role in raid? Could someone, as well, explain to me why would a guild trial someone they don't know, with a class they don't know, to do a job they don't know if they can do or not, to take the place of their enhance that they have know for quite some time and know that it's capable of doing it?

Seriously, even it's people inside the guild rerolling you're not suddenly playing with the DK as good as you play your old character at first day...

Seriously, i am already abusing your attention and patience with this damn long post, but if DKs DPS comes close to other hybrids, like enhancers, they will be nerfed somehow. Not because i don't think it's fair or that we should be top damage dealer hybrids. It's just that DK was created to solve a tank problem. Making your tank class go dps doesn't solve that problem. So they won't create a whole new class, with new mechanics, with new spells and powers to solve a problem and let it not do the job.

Death Knights - tank oriented
Enhance shammy - dps oriented
thanks.

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What i really wanted to know, though, is if none is concerned to the fact that we have to pay so "much" to make int usable at our dps stats? Like, currently we have to pay talent points to make our tier sets suitable for us! Doesn't that get's reaaaaally weird to no one else?