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◊ Kaubel · 08/21/08, 4:58 PM

Post: [Paladin] Retribution DPS Theorycraft
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Originally Posted by Thorin

Originally Posted by MMO Champion Tom Chilton Interview
What about the paladin, is there any plans to nerf the DPS Paladin's damage from what it is on beta servers now?
T.C. - We are just now beginning on going through the heavy tuning phase, we really don't do that until the end of the beta generally, where we start going through all of the classes and finding the things that are way out of balance and there's no doubt right now that the ret paladins are doing a lot more damage than what we would expect.

you could sort of see this coming...

Yes this was expected.

Now here's the very important bit, the bit that's ultimately going to matter: Are we going to be taken back to our TBC state or will they be smart/moderate about it (the nerf)?

I foresee grim times if they stick us back to TBC state, no matter how good you think JoW/JotW is going to be as a bargaining chip.

A lot of classes can give mana back, there are not as many blessings to go around and we can't keep "all" judgements applied anymore through CS, which means we don't have a leg to stand on if we're doing TBC like DPS.

I remember saying we're doing 75% of the absolute max, guess when pushed even further, we fall even further behind.

My guild set the current world record for Brutallus raid DPS/speed kill yesterday and I'm taking this as the new model of "max practical DPS" possible: Wow Web Stats

Now I admit, my party only had 1 heroism, vs the other melee party which had 2. We also only had 3 people with Leatherworking, so not a full rotation, so results could have been slightly further in favor of ret.

Still: ~2150 alliance ret vs ~3350 rogue vs ~3330 hunter, vs ~3.1k fury warrior. I see a pattern here. That's closer to 65% of max raid dps.

I did have somewhat better results in a different try (same party, standard non-stacked dps group, 1 heroism, 3/4 drum rotation) which we broke off (2234 alliance ret) at 1%, but still it's a far cry from the max other classes are achieving.

Why was I taken for the record? Buffs maybe (which will probably only take 2 paladins in wotlk) and ultimately judgement upkeep (which we won't have in wotlk).

I was taken for the two reasons we won't really have in WotLK anymore (and yes it can be argued that giving a handful of people the 3rd blessing will be useful, but that's too weak).

Anyone understand my concern now?