Infraction for Mr. Crow: General Idiocy

Kaubel · 09/16/08, 7:34 AM

Post: [Priest] Discipline and Holy WotLK Talent Preview and discussion.
User: Mr. Crow
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 1

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Originally Posted by james

Am very used to NOT having to spec my 11 point talent. But Desperate Prayer as an 11 pt talent is something we've been asking for, for a while. However, there needs to be a PVE reason to take it. i.e. a secondary effect. Perhaps increased spirit for 10s after.

My first reaction to this change is how Desperate Prayer will interact with the usage of Binding Heal. Given the prevalence of AoE damage in BC, BH made sense because it kept the Priest up without stopping the healing on the MT. But putting Desperate Prayer on a 30sec CD just puts another check into play: "Do I use burn a GC to keep myself up with DP or do I keep healing the tank?"

Originally Posted by james

I sincerely hope that we don't get "mugged" into taking Symbol of Hope / Holy Nova / Devouring Plague as our "new spells". Each class seems to be getting 3 new spells - atm we only have Mind Sear and Divine Hymn. Was hoping our 3rd slot would be an interesting spell that would provide a differing gamestyle between TBC and Wrath. Initially, Mark of Divinity was going to be that spell - but that seems to have been recalled and rebranded as the paladin 51 pt Holy talent.

Was it three new spells for everyone? I was under the impression that it was two: one at 75, one at 80. Which kinda chafes me a bit, since everyone in BC got 4-5 new spells. I can understand not wanting to glut the action bars, but makes me wonder.

Originally Posted by james

One good thing to come from these becoming baseline is that we can now have talents affect these abilities.

I wouldn't mind having Healing Prayers need Desperate Prayer as a pre-requisite and giving our Desperate Prayer ability a 50%/100% chance to remove all curses.

Or maybe the weak Borrowed Time could add a Heroism/Bloodlust effect to Symbol of Hope with debuff. Lord knows they've been trying to do something with that.

I don't know how much Desperate Prayer needs any kind of rider abilities -- the dramatic cooldown reduction means it's going to be a extra 2000 HP for priest every 30 seconds, which isn't bad for no mana. I'll be interested in seeing what synergy happens with Hymn of Hope, and (despite the name) every DPS priest will probably like Devouring Plague regardless of synergies.