Warning for Ashere: General Idiocy

Kaubel · 09/23/08, 10:34 PM

Post: [Rogue] PvE DPS / WotLK Discussion
User: Ashere
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 0

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Someone who's been posting here for over a year should know that "giev lol" isn't going to be perceived as cute or funny.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Cally

One of the banes of rogue dps is high mobility fights. Now suppose, that for subtlety builds, the dps gap between it and the best single target dps build is fairly small for a stand still and dps fight. In game testing shows that a character runs at approximately 6.15 yards per second. With a run speed enhancement of 15%, this is 7.07 yards per second. Shadowstep provides instant coverage of 25 yards every 30 seconds.

In a Subtlety build meant for PvE, with the Subtlety tree designed as it is now, there is absolutely *no* reason to pick Shadowstep. Not for a sub-dagger build, not for a sub-hemo build and not for a sub-weaponswitch build either.

To reach Shadowstep, you've probably filled out 5/5 Sinister Calling already.
Next, you'll put 3 points into Honor among Thieves, since that's the definite winner on the tier.
2 more points needed to get to Slaughter from the Shadows, your options are Waylay, Filthy Tricks or Shadowstep + 1 point into one of the other two. We're talking raiding here. Filthy Tricks is probably first choice, since Tricks of the Trade is the best "oh shit, tank is losing agro do something" button in the game. If Waylay affects bosses, than we have another strong contender there, since it can give healers a good breather to sort out their mana. Then why would you take Shadowstep, if it's of little consequence in most of the fights available?

Anyway, I'm afraid Sub still won't cut it for raiding. A sub-dagger rogue will probably best option available, but there's just still too little scaling in the sub tree overall (gief hemo debuff affected by AP, lol!).
Though I am definitely looking forward to premed no longer needing Stealth, it will make our rotations a lot more interesting. 3s/5r or 5s/5r/Xy? hmmmm