Warning for Jagiya: General Idiocy

• Aldriana · 10/14/08, 1:33 AM

Post: Sunwell Plateau - Destroyer of guilds
User: Jagiya
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 0

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Why did you feel the need to put random sections of this in bold text?

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Efreet

Korgath has been obliterated by Sunwell, both Alliance and Horde.
Lets look at WoWProgress:
Gentlemens Club and Drama - Sunwell cleared, also substantial PvP development in Drama oddly enough
Not too sure if 3 and 4 are correct, pretty sure at least one of them stopped raiding
Overrated - Dead
Dread - Dead
FSB - Dead
Unequivocal - Surging with all the new recruits! Yay death
Death and Taxes - Well documented dead/rerolled
Abananax - Dead
Afterlife - Stopped Raiding
Venerate - Dead (Stopped Raiding)
Phantom Brethren - Dead

The D&T rerolls did very well, they scored the 2nd or 3rd KJ kill on Blackrock. (Nurfed got the first one)

Whilst my guild is still raiding, there was a long struggle during Felmyst/Twins progression due to lack of Shamen. (They'd all been scooped up by the more-progressed guilds) This was around the same time WotLK hit Alpha; which planted the timebomb in peoples' minds that it was only a matter of time until all the gear they were working to obtain would become redundant. Whilst this is the ongoing nature of any MMO, the release of an expansion marks a point within the gearing cycle whereby they have an opportunity to temporarily bypass the stepping stone dynamic, which is what classifies the current content as "truly" redundant from a loot perspective. To clarify; everyone knew they were going to replace their T4 shoulders when they first looted them. But that doesn't mean you are compelled to stop raiding; as you know they'll act as a pre-requisite to obtaining Tier 5 shoulders. And Tier 6 shoulders, and so on. With Tier 7 shoulders on the horizon, and no current pre-requisite, then the current content becomes entirely redundant.

I no longer raid with my guild (can't attend due to work commitments), I was there for our first M'uru attempt. Since then, they've been going strong, making reasonable progress on M'uru each week. There's no doubt in my mind that they will kill M'uru in the next reset (the -30% health nerf, combined with new talents will push them over the line) - however i've sat back and watched alot of the top guilds fall apart over the last few months. I think my guild is one of three or four Alliance guilds still raiding on Blackrock. Many of them collapsed, disbanded and/or gave up raiding until WotLK. I think attendance was the main reason. My guild hasn't had to cancel any raids yet, but there were some guilds 2 months ago cancelling their raids because they couldn't fill it.

One point of note, though... is that the limited amount of time has driven the hardcore raiders into a frenzy. There's been mass exodus all over the place, and pretty much every recruit we've recieved has applied with the same goals: "I want to see KJ dead before Wrath." If another guild shows promise of doing it sooner, they'll immediately jump ship (or even server) to swipe the opportunity.