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Old 10/22/08, 11:54 PM   #1
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Warning for Uglesh: Trolling

Post: [Warlock] PVE Raiding Compendium
User: Uglesh
Infraction: Trolling
Points: 0

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Message to User:
I don't understand what you think you're adding to the discussion by being a douchebag. Say what you have to say, and leave the snide remarks out of it. Now, since I just gave you an infraction for trolling I'm going to make this a warning. If you keep this shit up, I'll just ban you. I expect your behavior to change immediately.
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Originally Posted by Chrysanthemum View Post
Well considering his level of gear and his idea that prot warriors are "gimped", it's very likely your suspicion of his lack of knowledge and that of his guild's to be correct. His post was more or less the equivalent belief of many other's that "Hey your lock topped charts in X dungeon so they're fine". Here are some points to address for the errant prot warrior:

1) AFfliction DPS is highly luck dependant if matched side by side assuming mobility is any issue. Lag plays a severe part in keeping dots up as well as missing GCD's can be huge.
2) Debuff limit (while ZA probably won't see the debuff limit, it's also possible due to huge amounts of debuff slots afflict takes up)
3) Several talents are bugged in the tree itself. Uncertain of whether shadow embrace is fixed or not but there have been varying reports that it only works for one player regardless of how many stacks it.
4)Gear, Considering your main is in ZA/T4-early T5 gear, I'm assuming your guild isn't well geared across the board. as a result, the gear disparity might not be too different between his lock and yours. (My rogue for example outgears a few main rogues in my guild) Add that on top of your warlock being geared towards destro and your lock probably freshly tuned to afflict and that can explain a lot of the dps difference. Especially since you more or less suggest the lock in question is a newb to his class.

Ghostcrawler did recently post though (in the BETA) forums that lock dPS arent' quite where they would like it to be so here's to some hope.

IMO, the biggest problem so far has been Demonic Sacrifice. Gear and such was previously based around Demo Sac and shadow bolts (see T6 to reflect this). Now it's being radically shifted to another direction without really shifting the gear to compensate.

I think Blizzard is taking WArlocks in the /right/ direction. (I don't look forward to another 10 levels + year of raiding hitting shadow bolt) However, the idea isn't very fine tuned IMO.
You really need to take the time to properly read and interpret posts before you slam them.

1.) Prot warriors were incredibly gimpy prior to this patch. I rolled my Lock months ago for this reason.
2.) My post wasn't a "hey i topped dps post" but rather that people have been too accustomed to spamming one button and they need to adjust. Many people have only played "Shadowmage" SB Spam lock for over a year.

I don't disagree with your issues... But at the same time I enjoy having a challenge. Keeping up a proper rotation of DoT's (especially when having to move) is incredibly difficult, but that doesn't directly = unfun. In fact, most classes face huge DPS issues when mobility is factored in.

The fact that other classes had to have significant buffs (while locks stood largely flat) just to bring them up to our range should tell you something. It will take time for people to adjust to the new dynamic... and yes, people may actually have to read their spells and tooltips rather then eating a sandwich and hitting the "2" key over an over.
 
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