10/29/08, 3:25 PM
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Mike Tyson
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Infraction for Loi: Useless Post
Post: [Elemental Shaman] - Wotlk Talents discussion
User: Loi
Infraction: Useless Post
Points: 1
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Original Post:

Originally Posted by Ocyr
They were run at equal DPS statistics from gear and buffs -- otherwise it wouldn't be an apple to apple comparison. All spells were treated properly with regard to dps statistics.
Also, to Loi, thanks for posting those screenshots. However, I am not sure how much we can read into those numbers. In most high-end level 70 raids 3400 DPS won't get you into the top 5, and in many raids won't even get you into the top 10. So being #1 at 80 with 3400 DPS really just leads me to believe that pug was really bad. Like the level 80 Mage that barely broke 2000 DPS. Mages haven't been nerfed at all yet, and they have been consistently in the 4000-4500 DPS range.
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Yeah, I stated in previous posts that pug was pretty bad as far as other player's performances. Unfortunately, with beta servers being nearly empty, I couldn't pick and choose with whom to raid :P I also posted before about my raids pre LvB buff and glyph change - in 25 man with some of the top dpsers (players from Crimson, Forlorn Legacy etc), I managed to get 3.2K while top mages, hunters, arms warriors etc were in 5K or more range. Considering back then I had also the benefit of SP, lock with CoE, and boomkin, my dmg in the current raid (if we pretend the last 10 man patchwerk had those classes present with corresponding buffs/debuffs), my dmg could probably go up by another 15% (about 12% from both SoE and SP, and another 3% hit from boomkin's imp. faerie fire), which would put me in 4K dps or so range, which is still way below the top dps classes.
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