Infraction for ld1938: More fucking quote-splitting

Kaubel · 11/04/08, 1:12 PM

Post: [Priest] Discipline and Holy WotLK Talent Preview and discussion.
User: ld1938
Infraction: More fucking quote-splitting
Points: 2

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

Each time I see you do this, I'm giving you double the infraction points you received the time before. Fortunately, that means you get to do it up to two more times before you're banned permanently. Grats!

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Tainter

You are right I haven't tried Holy at high rated arena, but then the game balance at 70 has been damaged quite badly and I doubt it would mean very much.

By how much does Resilience now reduce crit damage? Does it make up for the increased crit rates of dps classes?

Guardian Spirit is of course not free of weaknesses. But Pain Suppression isn't either. If you're low on self buffs because the Shaman has softened you up with purges while hitting someone else then Pain Suppression is going to be dispelled pretty easily. It more or less relies on the presence of other buffs to work against dispelling targets. And if someone is focused you don't often have the time to feed them (or yourself) buffs before popping Pain Suppression.

I'm not sure what you're talking about here at all? Do you just misunderstand how PS works?
Have you ever tried dispelling when PS is on? Your target has like a 95% chance to resist...
Gl with that. With PS up.. dispelling is a pretty futile effort.

I would say that Disc is more vulnerable to dispel than Holy simply because it relies more on magic buffs to do its job. If a target has been stripped of buffs then PW:S suddenly isn't that great anymore. Divine Aegis won't be that awesome either. In that case Disc is left to heal with conventional heals, which will in turn be weaker than what Holy has to offer.

PWS's biggest weakness is that it can be dispellied. but with 30% dispel resistance you'll pretty much have to be spam purged for it to be taken down consistantly.. and if a shaman or priest is spam purging you they're sacrificing GCD's they could be using somewhere ellse, like on earthshocks
Good players will use LOS and wont let themselves get spam-purged though in the first place.
I've already been through the strength of disc vs strength of holy heals.. but you seem to keep ignoring it.

Guardian Spirit synergises pretty well with Lightwell, stronger glyphed Renew and PoM. Against multiple dps, when surviving is all that matters using Holy Nova to trigger SoL also works nicely and other than stuns is uninterruptiple.

Against multiple Dps, GS is even less effective compared to PS than against 1 dps.

when surviving is all that matters using Holy Nova to trigger SoL also works nicely and other than stuns is uninterruptiple.

LOL? a 400 hp heal isnt going to get you very far.. Spamming Holy Nova is NOT a good idea if you're being focused...

As a final point:
Someone said that Divine Aegis isn't affected by Healing Debuffs, but I can't find it anymore. It is because it works off effective healing. Does Rapture also suffer reduced effectiveness from Healing debuffs?

It depends on when the heal landed. The effect itself isnt affected by MS but the heal that triggered it would be.