Infraction for haldol: Stuff

Kaubel · 11/05/08, 6:50 PM

Post: [Warlock] WotLK Talent Preview / Discussion
User: haldol
Infraction: Stuff
Points: 1

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Message to User:

People aren't here to do your math for you, your grammar could be better, and you don't need to sign your posts.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Dimeron

Comparing 41/30 vs 31/40

Crit: 7% increase, 10% increase for imp.

SnF: Assuming 2600 spell power from all sources excluding demonic knowledge.
the base DPC not considering critical for Incinerate is increased 371.4 damage, or 14% increase
the base DPC not considering critical for SB is increased by 445.7143 damage, or 16.8% increase

Which means, unless 7% critical increase and demonic knowledge wins out against 14% dps decrease in incinerate. I can see 41/30 being equal or even superior at early gear level, but once one has collected enough spell power, 31/40 will almost always win out.

It is even more apparent if we assume the change to shadow and flames is a bug and should be additive instead of multiplicative, then in which case no way anything can beat out SnF if main source of the damage is from incinerate/SB.

Thank you Dimeron for your reply. Really appreciate the number crunching you did, because i hate doing that. A couple thoughts i have,

I think you minimized slightly the benefits from going from 31 to 41 points demo. that extra 10 points gets you a verly large amount of spell damage from DK, the Crit (which you mentioned) and also Demonic empowerment for the imp which is a significant crit bonus for him.

Can anyon comment on how much spell damage i might expect to get from Demonic knowledge with my Pet and I fully buffed in a raid at level 80?

I know right now at level 70 in my raiding gear with no buffs, and NOT in raid, DK gets me 115 spell damage. If casting Corr, Immo, and Incinerate, the amount of spell damage I'm thinkign i'll get at 80 with DK will Far outweigh SnF's 14% dps increase by going 41 into destro. Particularly with the recent buff to Immo and Corr's coefficients. I would also expect Demonic knowledge to scale with raiding gear.

another point i think worth mentioning, someone mentioned that getting 20% crit from talents is overkill, b/c you are going to get lots of crit from Gear and you will have Diminishing returns on crit. I'd argue that having that crit allows you to itemize for spelldamage preferably over crit.

hal