11/19/08, 4:11 PM
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Jack Vettriano > You
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Infraction for Maelstro: Grammar
Post: Warlock: Simple Questions/Simple Answers
User: Maelstro
Infraction: Grammar
Points: 1
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Message to User: Original Post:
Originally Posted by Woggle
For the concern of Incinerate vs. Shadowbolt: As you do not get Emberstorm using a heavy affliction build, Shadowbolt should easily outperform Incinerate. Furthermore, I think it has been proven that Improved Shadowbolt DOES increase DoT damage (check the WOTLK thread for more of the discussion, I think it is valid for reapplication). Feel free to correct me here, if I am mistaken.
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the actual buff can be seen here.
imp ISB applies the shadow mastery buff to the mob, which states:
"Shadow damage dealt increased by 10% from non-periodic spells."
if this is wrong, it wouldn't be surprising as that spell's actual debuff and tooltip have been conflicting for a long time now.
Originally Posted by Woggle
As I have already discussed in the WOTLK thread, reapplying Haunt whenever the cooldown is up is NOT the way to go. Haunt has lower DPCT than all DoT-spells (and Shadowbolt, on a sidenote) as long as it is not falling off. The trick is to reapply it just exactly when it runs out or a split second later or earlier. A lot of practice may be needed for that, but it will certainly increase your DPS, as you have to realize that Haunt itself has bad DPCT without factoring the increased DoT damage.
And no, even then you should NEVER interrupt a Shadowbolt cast. Losing one or two un-haunted DoT-ticks is definitely not the end of the world.
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shouldn't the 20% on your five different DoTs be factored in anyway? not only because in a lot of cases that 20% represents 200+ damage, but also because that 20% factors into how much your UA and Corruption are going to "crit" for. while yes i'm not going to break a shadow bolt cast to reapply it when it has 4 seconds left, but if for some mental lapse i am casting shadow bolt when Haunt has 2 seconds left, i will break the SB cast and reapply Haunt. of course, best case scenario means you will be reapplying Haunt as closely to it's falling off as possible without sacrificing a single shadow bolt (or DoT tick) - but this, you're right, just comes with playing the spec in a raiding environment for a while.
Originally Posted by Woggle
I am using the glyphs of Siphon Life, Curse of Agony and Corruption. All of those seem to be a better choice than glyph of Immolate.
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i reasoned this out after spending some time with Dr. Boom and with the slightly broken test dummies. even in deep affliction, my immolate DoT ticks for more than my siphon life does - about a 100 damage more - and the glyph of immolate increases that immolate DoT by 20%. i just don't see how the siphon life glyph can compare unless it's simply for health regen, or the fact that SL is much easier to get off on the fly.
Originally Posted by Woggle
I am using a 56/0/15 spec too, but without Suppression (having the 3% hit without having Cataclysm is worthless) and having the Aggro reduce.
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i wouldn't say Suppression without Cataclysm is worthless in 70 gear, just because getting a resist/miss on a DoT application would be bad for my rotation - and while getting a resist/miss on a shadow bolt would be much more tragic, i'm really feeling like imp ISB and 5/5 ruin are worth it. when i'm hit capped at 80 though, i will most likely move points from suppression and fel conc to soul siphon and imp drain soul.
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