Infraction for Kkyle: General Idiocy

Kaubel · 12/04/08, 7:31 PM

Post: Marksman questions
User: Kkyle
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

http://elitistjerks.com/f15/a34-forum_rules/, #2 (quote-splitting, consecutive posts).

I'm merging this ugly ass post with the one before it.

Original Post:

As far as I can see, Arcane Shot > everything but Chimera in terms of damage output on my MM hunter, especially with the 15% damage bonus. The crits are strikingly larger than Steady Shot or Aimed Shot, the amount of points to buff its damage are relatively minimal

Those three points that buff arcane shot could be used some where else. To justify the use of those points for Arcane, you need to evaluate the DPS difference of not placing those points in other talents.

Sure, we want to stack armor penetration, but Arcane shot negates all that need as it deals spell based damage (not sure, but may even be boosted by spell damage buffs).

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought MM hunters don't want to stack armor pen since it doesn't affect Chimera or Serpent sting?

I'm fast with my switches, I do the hawk for every Chimera, and even on Patchwerk against better geared rogues (and skilled players), I was able to out damage them all by a considerable sum (that's with Windfury and Feral crit bonuses for the rogue).

If the rogue had the Feral Crit bonus, you had it too.

I fail to see the actual bonus of sacrificing so many points into Ferocity, however. BM hunters use their pets for considerable gains, I get it...but the 20% bonus damage requires 5 points...5 points that I see being better used elsewhere in the MM tree (especially as I gear up.)

Where specifically and why?

Finally, remember that % scales to damage. 20% on a pet that does 350 - 400 DPS (my cat currently) is only 80 damage.

From what I have heard, Marks pets do 15-20% of the total damage. Let's say a MM hunter achieves 5k DPS on a fight. That means the pet will do anywhere from 750 to 1000 dps.

5% tracking bonus on the approximate 1300 - 1500 average is only a net gain of 5-15 DPS. Considering that a MM hunter's pet is made of glass, that extra 15 situational DPS I feel is unwarranted (considering on non-pet friendly fights you're actually taking a 65 DPS bath.)

How is a MM hunter's Pet made of glass? If you go into the BM tree to pick up Aspect Mastery, you have grabbed most of the pet survival (and revive) talents a BM hunter will have.