12/06/08, 8:21 PM
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Infraction for Cahrin: General Idiocy
Post: WotLK Healing Compendium v3.0 [in progress]
User: Cahrin
Infraction: General Idiocy
Points: 1
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Originally Posted by Lambi
Affliction locks do use felhunters, because not only are they better for dark pact than imps, they also bring a spirit buff.
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From what I've read, FH is currently buggy and Imps are actually doing more DPS.
Originally Posted by Lambi
If you have MS you don't have holy conc. + imp. holy conc making your crit only affect inspiration out of all talents, making crit a worthless stat.
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Granted it's 3/5, but you could make it 5/5 if you wanted to, I just choose not because I'd rather have Serendipity.
Originally Posted by Lambi
DP let's you socket for regen on a much higher basis than MA would let you socket for throughput, so I don't buy that argument either.
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Speciously reasoned.
Originally Posted by Lambi
You can't have 5% haste from enlightenment and CoH at the same time, so I don't understand why you'd even make the comparison with enlightenment and DP?
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Not personally my cup of tea, but still possible. More just wanted to point out that you CAN have 5/5 Enlightenment and CoH at the same time.
Originally Posted by Kortar
#1: They have terrible single target throughput, no decent reactive heals and they burn mana like crazy.
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Already pretty much proven wrong, just wanted to reiterate that I did exactly the same thing on our last PW kill and ended above 90% with Shadow Pet used near the end, just for the hell of it. Throughput may be less than disc, but it's not by any means terrible.
But yes, only one reactive heal. I wouldn't call PoM reactive, because it won't stop a killing blow. PW:S is reactive.
Druids also have SM, so it's not just palys. Still, Disc has the most reactive heals.
Originally Posted by Kortar
#2: If you are having a Priest heal tanks, why wouldn't you have them spec Discipline? In which case, they'd have Divine Spirit and you'd save the dribbles of cash necessary to purchase the cnsumeable.
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Because, at least for me, Disc is really not very good for anything BUT tank healing, whereas Holy is really good at raid healing and decent at tank healing. Yes, I've seen Thorongil's parse where he is on par with a CoH priest, but frankly 50% CoH over an entire night is essentially just not living up to your capability. I was disc for two full clears, and I just can't keep up with WG/CoH, to the point that I just smite or jump around HNing on trash because there's just no point in trying to heal over WG/CoH/CH. Yes, raid damage doesn't need to be healed instantly in most cases, but that doesn't mean your healers shouldn't heal it up instantly if they can. It's bad habit and sets bad precedent.
Originally Posted by Kortar
Fundamentally, it sounds like the situation you're describing where Divine Spirit is the "right" choice is an alternate-thursdays-only-during-a-full-moon type scenario. It works for you because there are some questionable choices made at the logistical level. But for virtually everyone else, it's the wrong choice.
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You've got it backwards. DS gives a constant increase over an entire raid. GS is a once a fight (if that) spell that's basically there to cover someone else's mistake. There's certainly a case to be made using it proactively - Using it for enrages is a good example. However, in that case, it still makes more sense to me to have a DS CoH spec and GS CoH spec priest rather than two GS priests. GS becomes way less useful as more people have it. If there's another holy priest in the raid, may as well spec something that doesn't give you a somewhat redundant buff. And yes, you could argue DS is somewhat redundant with a felhound, but felhounds are way more likely to die than DS is to get dispelled. Plus, our locks don't currently use felhounds.
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