12/16/08, 6:54 PM
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Mike Tyson
Night Elf Rogue
Doomhammer
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Infraction for Lord Xar: Whining
Post: State of Rogues
User: Lord Xar
Infraction: Whining
Points: 1
Administrative Note:
Message to User:
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You started out okay, but then descended into whining. And parses with rogues on top have already been posted in that that thread.
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Original Post:

Originally Posted by Vulajin
I'm not sure what you mean by "still weren't able to compete with the people at the top." Wodahs was 9% behind Silver (and he's being seriously toned down in 3.0.8), 3.2% behind Puppies and Ephedrine, 2.7% behind Baron, and and 1.7% behind Seratha. I'd hardly call that "unable to compete." Some of Wodahs' gear isn't even optimal, and he's Combat, providing a 2% boost to all the physical DPS in the raid (not to mention coming in behind the currently theorycrafted DPS levels of Mutilate).
(edit) For that matter, your own gear is not especially fantastic and you came in only 3.3% behind Wodahs. I'm not really sure how much more you're looking for.
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I am rather confused here. Rogues are suppose to be strongest in single target dps. Chalon mentioned the warriors were not included, and they would have beaten them, yet - the rogues are not tops. Mind you, I understand you brought up issue with their gear, but we can't say anything about gear or its impact unless we know what the gear level of those who are beating the rogues.
To say someone's gear is lacking in context of unknown variables isn't very useful. I think we'd need lvl or tier breakdown of such to make reasonable assumptions.
The gradients of "being behind" is coloring to try and remove issue. Rogues are behind. Simple.
Originally Posted by Vulajin
This thread is going to rapidly outlive its usefulness if the only purpose it serves is for rogues to whine about not being 1st place every time.
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Ok. point taken. Show me parses of raids where rogues are 1st once with similiar geared and varied groups. All things being equal, please someone supply the reports that show a rogue in the number one position once, or perhaps twice. The QQ'ing is not about being first every single time, its about being first or second at least once.
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