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Mike Tyson
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Originally Posted by Lokkun
I may have found one reason why the Rogue with 7/51/13 provides such a low combopoint-generation, if this is the used configuration (I took it from .svn/trunk/melee.txt):
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# Combat Rogue (Fist, Serrated Blades)
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rogue=Rogue_07_51_13
party=3
level=80
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0xbZMgVbxbxoru0xRtxbc0h
actions=flask,type=endless_rage/food,type=great_feast/apply_poison,main_hand=wound,off_hand=deadly
actions+=/auto_attack/pool_energy/slice_and_dice,min_combo_points=4,refresh_at=5/tricks_of_the_trade,target=Rogue_15_51_05
actions+=/killing_spree/blade_flurry/rupture,min_combo_points=5/sinister_strike/adrenaline_rush
gear_strength=0
gear_agility=1100
gear_stamina=950
gear_intellect=0
gear_spirit=0
gear_attack_power=2350
gear_armor_penetration_rating=0
gear_expertise_rating=215
gear_hit_rating=250
gear_crit_rating=675
gear_haste_rating=280
# Not fair to use the same stats since Combat Rogue needs less expertise.
# Trade expertise for ivalue-equal amount of attack power
enchant_attack_power=160
enchant_attack_expertise_rating=-80
glyph_rupture=1
glyph_slice_and_dice=1
glyph_blade_flurry=1
relentless_earthstorm=1
tier7_2pc=1
tier7_4pc=1
main_hand=fist,dps=171,speed=2.6,enchant=berserking
off_hand=dagger,dps=156,speed=1.4,enchant=berserking
# Throw in a pair of Paladins....... Eventually these static parms will be replaced with real actors.
blessing_of_kings=1
blessing_of_might=688
sanctified_retribution=1
leader_of_the_pack=1
I would recommend a Glyph of Sinister Strike instead a Glyph of Blade Flurry. That should boost the CP/Sec, but the difference between 15/51/5 and 7/51/13 is still too high, as Ratak already stated. I don't think that a missing SS-Glyph is the only reason for the difference between the two combat specs:
Rogue_15_51_05: combo_points=187.0|1.5sec
Rogue_07_51_13: combo_points=96.9|3.0sec
Edit: The difference is 90,1 combo pionts over the duration of the run. Rogue_07_51_13 had 116.2 sinister strikes during that period. Unfortunately I have failed in finding the crit rate of the sinister strikes. The only value I've found was 51.6% but it is stated as "crit per execute" and I have to admit that I am not aware of it's meaning. But from my experience this crit value can be achieved in 25man raids. So by calculating 51.6% as crit rate for sinister strike this leads to ~60 critical sinister strikes. A SS-Glyph provides a 50% chance on critical sinister strikes to award an additional combo point. So using a SS-Glyph would boost the combo points from 96.9 to ~126.9. Still missing 60.1 combo points. Accounting the 20 combo points Rogue_15_51_05 gains from ruthlessness, the total difference between the two specs should be more closer to 187 : 167. So all in all Rogue_07_51_13 is missing somewhere around ~40.1 combo points. If there is a mistake in this calculation please point at it. The only difference between the two specs is ruthlessness, so the combo point generation deficit of 7/51/13 should only be the amount of the benefit ruthlessness gives.
One other thing: I glanced at the "Gains" for Rogue_18_51_02 and it appears that Adrenalin Rush isn't used as well for the 18/51/2-setup. |
The difference would be that 15/51/5 performs more finishers, and thus gets more ruthlessness procs.
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