Infraction for lovebreed: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.

Kaubel · 04/26/09, 10:49 AM

Post: There Will Be Blood (DPS) - Meet the new thread/Same as the old thread
User: lovebreed
Infraction: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

NINE screenshots? Seriously?

You need to find a better way to present your data because you're not pulling this shit again.

Original Post:

Just a little insight on how effective armor penetration is...

The World of Warcraft Armory

For some odd reason, armory is showing that i have less AP than i should have, my stats are currently 3950 AP (w/o horn), 286 hit rating, 30.85% crit chance, and last but not least, 254 armor pen (20.62%). There is of course, Blood Gorged for another 10%.

While testing out just how great the trinket Grim Toll is, I tested for a considerable amount of time, 612 ARP proc is GREATER than the 1000 AP mirror proc. I was able to hit 10k+ with critted Death Strike with grim toll proc, with the mirror proc and the base 254 arp, i could only get to around 9k death strike. The total armor penetration when the grim toll procs equates to around 70% ARP. I could NEVER get remotely close to a 10k crit with the mirror proc of 1k AP. I can say the same for Heart Strike as well, ive gotten 8k crit HS, and nothing remotely close with the 1k AP.

Originally Posted by concept84

A few of my posts back after correctly modeling ArP I found that ArP surpasses Strength after around 6200 AP raid buffed, before procs. Strength directly affects AP which directly affects ArP value so they should be balanced. I plan to balance around this number of 6200 AP with raid buffs and gemming/echanting etc. Hope that helps.

Im starting to think thats a good idea as well, when Grim Toll procs and gives us 612 ARP, that gives me a total of 866 ARP, I could very well hit 400-500 base ARP with Melencholy Sabatons, Greatring of Collision, Bladebreaker Gauntlets and keep around the same 30% crit rate and 8% hit... and theoretically, if i can reach around 600+ base ARP, who knows what numbers ill be able to pull.

SS of 254 ARP, 3950 AP, 286 hit, 30.85% crit, with Grim Toll (Horn of Winter not added in, but used on all tests)
DEATHSTRIKE

SS of 56 ARP, 3910 AP, 265 hit, 33.75% crit, with Mirror

SS of 332 ARP, 3992 AP, 272 hit, 28.37% crit, with Grim Toll (The gear used makes it hit or miss, I don't use it b/c it is lacking in the Crit Department, I got lucky in this short test, usually never crits that often =P)

HEARTSTRIKE

MELEE SWING

Comments are welcome.