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• Aldriana · 04/27/09, 6:33 PM

Post: Moonkin Raiding
User: polarbearoughey
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Dare I ask if you have any actual analysis or testing to indicate this is better? As if it's just your personal preference and/or what seems better to you, that's not very interesting to the community.

Original Post:

I didn't use dummies to find exact numbers, but just from getting the Improved IS talent I noticed more crits happening for me on my eclipsed wrath spams in raids. Maybe it won't increase your dps, but it may certainly increase total damage done and that's arguably more important than dps.

I have started using a rotation like this on single target boss fights, to maximize the benefit of eclipse on wrath.
Faerie Fire(talented) -> Moonfire(glyphed) -> Starfire(glyphed)(until eclipse(wrath) procs) -> Insect Swarm(glyphed) -> Wrath(until eclipse passes) -> Moonfire

I also throw in the Force of Nature treants either before or after the first Moonfire in case there's a chance I can use them again during the fight. With this rotation, I'm not spending half the battle casting Starfire, instead, I normally only need to cast 3 or 4 Starfires until that lovely eclipse procs, giving me increased damage on all wraths, whether or not they crit. When they do crit consecutively during the eclipse, my dps shoots upwards of 4k. I find it much more beneficial, or at least more reliable to take advantage of a 30% increase to damage 100% of the time for 15 seconds, instead of a 60% chance to increase the chance of a critical hit by 30% for 15 seconds.

During Heroism, however, I pop up a Moonfire and spam Starfire no matter where I am in my rotation, even if eclipse is up.

Improved Insect Swarm and Improved Faerie Fire are a godsend to this rotation, giving increased damage on your nukes with the corresponding dot and increased chance to crit. That's why I always have Moonfire and Starfire together, and Insect Swarm and Wrath together. Never should you have both dots up while only spamming one nuke. This is why I have a problem with nuke weaving, as it seems tedious and inefficient, as far as benefiting from our talents goes. They are designed to give us increased damage and crit chance when used together, paired by damage type.

Eclipse is not necessary to do great raid dps, I've met Moonkins who don't have it at all and were welcomed by my guild. I highly enjoy eclipse and making my rotation based around it. It has helped me step up the damage ladder on my recounts. It takes some time to set up though and I find my damage on trash mobs is lacking, where too many other dps classes can put up the big numbers immediately, I'm stuck simply spamming wrath with no faerie fire or insect swarm, because by they time i put ff and my dot up, the mob is at half health and I only get two or three wraths in before its dead.

So what I would like to know is, apart from hurricane, what do you use for trash mobs? Is there any rotation involved? Or is it just mashing one button until the target flops?