Infraction for dvorjak: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.

Kaubel · 06/16/09, 10:17 PM

Post: Best Possible DPS in Shandaras WotLK Spreadsheet
User: dvorjak
Infraction: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.
Points: 1

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Message to User:

Could you read rule #2 again?

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Alduin

570ARP if you use Mjolnir (570+665=1235 capped)
623ARP if you use Grim Toll (623+612=1235 capped)

BiS Hardmode Gear:
Hunter DPS 7394,91
Pet Dps 1079,63
Total DPS 8474,55
Bufffood: Hearthy Rhino, Flask of Endless Rage
talents: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
Gear

<Header><Version>V1</Version><Date>16.06.2009</Date><ProfileName>Mjolnir AgiGems</ProfileName></Header><Gear><Race>Orc</Race><MainHand><Name>Lotrafen, Spear of the Damned</Name><Enchant>Massacre (Two Hand)</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></MainHand><OffHand><Name>None</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></OffHand><Head><Name>Conqueror's Scourgestalker Headpiece</Name><Enchant>Arcanum of Torment</Enchant><Gem1>Relentless Earthsiege Diamond (21 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Delicate Stormjewel (20 Agility)</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></Head><Neck><Name>Pendulum of Infinity</Name><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Neck><Shoulder><Name>Mantle of Fiery Vengeance</Name><Enchant>Greater Inscription of the Axe</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Shoulder><Back><Name>Drape of the Faceless General</Name><Enchant>Major Agility</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Deadly Monarch Topaz (8 Agi, 8 Crit)</Gem2></Back><Chest><Name>Conqueror's Scourgestalker Tunic</Name><Enchant>Powerful Stats</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></Chest><Wrist><Name>Fluxing Energy Coils</Name><Enchant>Greater Assault</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem2></Wrist><Hands><Name>Gloves of the Steady Hand</Name><Enchant>Major Agility</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Fractured Dragon's Eye (27 ArP)</Gem2><Gem3>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem3></Hands><Waist><Name>Belt of the Betrayed</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem3></Waist><Legs><Name>Legguards of Cunning Deception</Name><Enchant>Icescale Leg Armor</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Dragon's Eye (27 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem2><Gem3>Delicate Dragon's Eye (27 Agi)</Gem3></Legs><Feet><Name>Boots of Living Scale</Name><Enchant>Superior Agility</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem2></Feet><Ring1><Name>Brann's Signet Ring</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1></Ring1><Ring2><Name>Brann's Sealing Ring</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>Delicate Scarlet Ruby (16 Agi)</Gem1></Ring2><Trinket1><Name>Dark Matter</Name><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Trinket1><Trinket2><Name>Mjolnir Runestone</Name><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Trinket2><Ranged><Name>Skyforge Crossbow</Name><Enchant>Heartseeker Scope</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Ranged><Ammo>Mammoth Cutters</Ammo></Gear>

BiS Non Hardmode Gear:
Hunter DPS 6912,32
Pet Dps 1061,19
Total DPS 7973,51

Bufffood: Flask of Endless Rage, Hearthy Rhino

<Header><Version>V1</Version><Date>16.06.2009</Date><ProfileName>NonHardmode Loot</ProfileName></Header><Gear><Race>Orc</Race><MainHand><Name>Lotrafen, Spear of the Damned</Name><Enchant>Massacre (Two Hand)</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></MainHand><OffHand><Name>None</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></OffHand><Head><Name>Conqueror's Scourgestalker Headpiece</Name><Enchant>Arcanum of Torment</Enchant><Gem1>Relentless Earthsiege Diamond (21 Agi)</Gem1><Gem2>Delicate Stormjewel (20 Agility)</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></Head><Neck><Name>Broach of the Wailing Night</Name><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Neck><Shoulder><Name>Iron-studded Mantle</Name><Enchant>Greater Inscription of the Axe</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Shoulder><Back><Name>Winter's Frigid Embrace</Name><Enchant>Major Agility</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Back><Chest><Name>Conqueror's Scourgestalker Tunic</Name><Enchant>Powerful Stats</Enchant><Gem1>Fractured Scarlet Ruby (16 ArP)</Gem1><Gem2>Fractured Dragon's Eye (27 ArP)</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></Chest><Wrist><Name>Mechanist's Bindings</Name><Enchant>Greater Assault</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>Fractured Scarlet Ruby (16 ArP)</Gem2></Wrist><Hands><Name>Gloves of the Fiery Behemoth</Name><Enchant>Major Agility</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>Fractured Scarlet Ruby (16 ArP)</Gem3></Hands><Waist><Name>Belt of the Betrayed</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2><Gem3>Fractured Scarlet Ruby (16 ArP)</Gem3></Waist><Legs><Name>Saronite Mesh Legguards</Name><Enchant>Icescale Leg Armor</Enchant><Gem1>Fractured Scarlet Ruby (16 ArP)</Gem1><Gem2>Fractured Dragon's Eye (27 ArP)</Gem2><Gem3>None</Gem3></Legs><Feet><Name>Boots of Living Scale</Name><Enchant>Superior Agility</Enchant><Gem1>Fractured Scarlet Ruby (16 ArP)</Gem1><Gem2>Fractured Dragon's Eye (27 ArP)</Gem2></Feet><Ring1><Name>Band of Draconic Guile</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1></Ring1><Ring2><Name>Metallic Loop of the Sufferer</Name><Enchant>None</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1></Ring2><Trinket1><Name>Darkmoon Card: Greatness</Name><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Trinket1><Trinket2><Name>Grim Toll</Name><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Trinket2><Ranged><Name>Giant's Bane</Name><Enchant>Heartseeker Scope</Enchant><Gem1>None</Gem1><Gem2>None</Gem2></Ranged><Ammo>Mammoth Cutters</Ammo></Gear>

Interesting:
Every 16ARP Gem gives an additional 2DPS(nonHardmode)/4DPS(Hardmode) compared to Agi Gems while "wasting" the procc..
Changing Flask of Endless Rage to the Elixir Combo is a DMG lose(?)

Manuall Calculations with procc uptime 20%:
Hardmode Gear + ARP gem:
9233.39*0.2+8284.92*0.8= 8474DPS. Spreadsheet gives 8520DPS. But with an internal CD (if that's the case) it is only up 10sec every 45sec ~0.22 (which would give 8495DPS)
HardmodeGear +AGI gems:
9565.31*0.2+8249.5*0.8= 8512 (or 8541DPS with 22%). Spreadsheet gives 8465DPS.
With no procc up, the difference between both is only 40DPS (for the ARP setup). But with the procc it's 330DPS for the Agi Setup. But 330DPS over 20% of the time is > 40DPS over 80% of the time (66>32).

And what I experienced so far with warriors is capping (1235ARP rating) and going for full STR/AP afterwards is "better".

(Personally: 2 points against full stacking ARP. Either it's a mistake in the spreadsheet or in the way of my thinking.)

Could you please include your gear list instead of just using the gearstring for those of us without Excel?