Infraction for Abeness: Let the grown ups talk a while

Juice · 07/29/09, 10:51 AM

Post: The Holy Paladin Guide for 3.1
User: Abeness
Infraction: Let the grown ups talk a while
Points: 4

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

You have no raiding experience, your theory is crap and your assumptions are wrong. And while you communicate effectively enough, you're spreading misinformation in the paladin thread. I've gotten several notes on this and I'm going to shut you down for a while. If someone (not you) thinks this is out of line, I'm open for discussion and I'll reverse it. Right now my perception is that your contributions are strictly destructive.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by gcbirzan

We are, indeed, arguing your interpretation of the mathematics you presented. You are using it to say that crit doesn't scale with itself in terms of mana regen, and that is only true if you ignore the fact that the mana regen you gained from crit allows you more mana regen. I have no idea how I can explain this better than I just did, I don't seem to understand why you keep on insisting that the frequency of Holy Light casts is independent to the mana regen you have.

So far, the only point I want to get across is that crit can be represented as a Mp5 value, and that the scaling properties of crit are so minimal that there is no it breaks my point. And that tiny amount of mana from scaling is easily made up by the fact that crit does not give mana back for Beacon, Sacred Shield, Cleanse, etc. Also, that tiny amount of regen that scaling crit gives can easily be factored in (with very minimal reprocussions on my conclusions) if fight length is considered. Again, my first goal was just to prove my "crit as Mp5" math.

Originally Posted by gcbirzan

Indeed, Flash of Light lowers the effectiveness of crit versus mp5. However, while more mp5 does increase the number of Holy Lights you can cast, the mana return from mp5 does not change depending on how many spells you cast, whereas that of crit does.

Agreed. The slower you cast, the less Mp5 you get from crit. The more you cast, the more Mp5 you get. And when mana is spent on Flash of Light rather than Holy Light, crit loses Mp5 value.