09/03/09, 6:18 AM
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Upsidazi
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Warning for Leviathon: 2. All opinions should be stated as succinctly as possible.
Post: World of Warcraft - Lore & Storyline discussion [SPOILERS]
User: Leviathon
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You should probably have edited out some parts from the posts you quoted, as you don't appear to be responding to the full posts.
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Originally Posted by Camaris
The Water Elemental Camp could be friendlies. Or as friendly as Duke Hydraxis was.
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For the concept maps yellow boxes are used for mob camps, white circles are neutral bases (apparently none , red circles are Horde bases and blue circles are Alliance bases. The only 2 places with neutral camps seem to be Deephom with the Earthen and Twilight Highlands with the Red Dragons. Uldum may have some since no bases are even labeled on that map.

Originally Posted by Bierzkrieg
While I love that big old cow and blame Blizzard for not giving him even a slight role in transpiring events - plus hideous gear - I'm all for Cairne dying. Preferably in a blaze of glory, such as squishing half of Garrosh's elite guard before finally getting overpowered.
Back to Thrall-Garrosh: with Med'han perfectly incarnating (even now) the Aspect of Magic - Malygos is even hinted not to have had any kind of influence over non-arcane magic - that leaves us to know if Thrall will indeed "lose" his post as Warchief by joining the Council of Tirisfal and maybe even becoming the new Guardian. That's my opinion. In the screen published here, he was wearing quite the castery gear, kilt and all. Clearly, those aren't prisoner clothes the SI:7 made him put on (I still find it hard to believe they can force him to do anything). So he does seem to be joining the Council - an insurrection would be hard to believe, he's got a lot of influence over old warlords and overlords like Saurfang, trying a coup would probably end with the orcs' decimation rather than Thrall's demotion - which might mean Rehgar dies. As to his promotion to Guardian: pardon my orc fandom, but if you can think of someone more messiah-like, unifying and all-around powerful, I'm all for hearing about that being. Hell, I'll vote for him.
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It is possible that the person who made the leak misinterpreted the part about who kills Cairne also. For example the goblins weren't enslaved by Deathwing but the story had them being enslaved by trolls in the past so maybe the person who got the info just made up his own story to fill in the part he didn't have about the goblins.
A good way to create more reason for war and to explain the wall at the entrance to Mulgore could be that Varian's forces invaded Mulgore and killed Cairne for example before being fought back.
Originally Posted by Tinwhisker
I always thought Turalyon was being saved as well, not for a redesigned Outlands, but for one of those "other worlds" that were one of the hot topics of TBC. I could very much see him being set up as leader of some group serving as the antithesis of the Burning Legion, that is they travel from world to world, liberating it's denizens from the Burning Legion or any other force that has conquered them. Culminating with Turalyon spearheading an assault against Sargeras with the aid of the Naaru/Titans/etc.
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When TBC was announced we were supposed to see the portals in Outland used to go to Legion worlds and meet them but that never happened. When WotLK was announced they then mentioned that they would patch in the Legion worlds where we would at least meet Alleria at the end of the TBC cycle or shortly after WotLK release but they once again didn't (least not yet) do that. Wonder if they will ever get to having us see at least one of them.

Originally Posted by Tyrian
Tyr would be a suitable endboss (or central figure) for the Halls of Origination in Uldum. It might not take place in quite the epic-25 man setting people would like, but it would help tie Uldum and Ulduar together.
I was a little disappointed to learn that Uldum wouldn't feature a 25-man raid. The Titan story arc is epic. An Egyptian architecture framed Titan instance would be a pleasure to raid in, just like Ulduar was. At the risk of sounding a little silly, we have often joked about 'How did General Vezax get into his room, was he lowered in through the ceiling?' Well perhaps the broken ceiling was where Tyr escaped out of, to extrapolate on Valnoth's post. If that was indeed his room.
You can try to make the connection from hints Blizzard dropped at Blizzcon. Uldum houses a rumoured superweapon. Tyr is missing from Ulduar. All the Tyr's fellow watchers were corrupted by Yogg-Saron. General Vezax (may) have have invaded his room. What could you do if you were in Tyr's position?
Escape and head to Uldum to the superweapon, as perhaps the only means of stopping Yogg-Saron. As for whether he ever got to it, activated and/or attempted to use it - would be where the story would continue in Cataclysm. Tyr might have been captured by Deathwing and the Twilight Hammer before he could get to the weapon, he could still be a good guy. Theres many possibilities for where his story direction could go.
General Vezax drops [Aesuga, Hand of the Ardent Champion] and has a bunch of items with names pertaining to light/hope/despair. Although Vezax could very well be Tyr, I'd be more tempted to believe Vezax battled Tyr in his room but he escaped through the roof. The "Aesuga, Hand of the Ardent Champion" might be a little easter egg and indication that when we see Tyr again in Uldum, he'll be missing the hand which Vezax ate off, or the (to paraphrase part of Valnoths post), Or perhaps it's just a metaphor for Vezax taking his weapon. It is amusing to see Blizzard drop these ambiguous hints. The employee making them, the WoW Lead Game Designer, would most certainly know more than he's letting on.
So if people are looking for hints, you could derive them from some of the out-of-place naming on some of Vezax's items. [Vestments of the Piercing Light] and [Belt of Clinging Hope]. Vezax also drops a special Paladin thematic item, [Libram of the Sacred Shield] and the [Flare of the Heavens] . Couple all that with Aesuga, and the idea of Vezax battling a Paladin-themed Tyr in his room doesn't seem all that far fetched.
Whether speculation like that is plausible or not, the concept of Tyr linking Uldum to Ulduar would work very nicely.
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Will be interesting to see him possibly play a big part in Uldum. With the location of Uldum being so close to Ahn'Qiraj then it may even play out that the place had/has some connection to C'Thun also.
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