Infraction for Rhy: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say.

• Tehax · 11/17/09, 2:08 PM

Post: Marksman questions
User: Rhy
Infraction: 6. Do not post unless you have something new and worthwhile to say.
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Gut feelings are not really of great interest to anyone here. Provide numbers.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by RubiksNinja

Correct me if I am wrong,
But in order to achieve maximum DPS, you want to pair Multiplicative buffs, not stacking buffs.

I think it's fair to disregard the cast time for SS because it is at or around 1.5sec with the application of one haste buff, and that includes Rapid Shots.

simply Stacking buffs (which I do not recommend) would be getting a 1k AP proc and triggering a 2k AP buff. This adds for burst, but neither actually affects the DPS potential of the other buff. Likewise, getting bloodlust and using a rapid fire just speeds up your shots more, but doesn't improve dps potential of either CD.

buffs should be paired alternatively, if you get bloodlust (haste buff), you want to blow an attackpower trinket, that way you maximize the damage potential of all the extra shots.

Similarly, you want to save your potion of speed for greatness proc for the same reason.

the caveat here is the third-fourth-fifth buff you stack. As long as you've properly paired 2 buffs, any additionally stacked buffs are still multiplicative. But, if you want to maximize the value of each of your buffs, you want to use them together, pairing haste+damage.

My suggestion:
Pot'o'speed - Mojinar Runestone
Rapid Fire - Greatness/Deaths Choice
CotW - Bloodlust

This pairs haste and damage buffs, as well as pairing non-player activated buffs with those that can be fired on demand. (Hopefully you're pets furious howls will line up with rapid shots.)

I don't think we are on the same page here.

Lets say that we get a medium long fight as an exalmpe. Shortly after the pull, chances are that both of your trinkets will proc at the same time (Mjolnir and Death's Verdict as an example). At that point, you use Rapid fire, Potion of Speed and CotW (haste gloves enchant if you have it). By doing that you maximize the number of auto shots you get during the 10-15 secs of burst.
The other option is to stack even more haste by waiting with your CDs for the time you get Heroism if the fight is short enough and you won't lose a pair of Rapid/Readiness by waiting or if you time the use of your CDs with the time Heroism is called. It involves a bit of luck with the timing, but it is doable.

Now, if my feeling is correct, the increased AP, being ArP capped and having all those haste buffs up at the same time will net you more damage than if you chain the haste buffs. And as R00k!3 said above me, there was some theorycrafting done a while back that showed a small advantage of stacking vs chaining. And if someone, good enough with numbers, can spend some time and give us the answer, it would be awesome.