Infraction for Tenku: Generally garbage post

• Snowy · 01/05/10, 12:28 PM

Post: Holy Paladin Compendium for 3.3
User: Tenku
Infraction: Generally garbage post
Points: 1

Administrative Note:

Message to User:

At the *very* least, you better change your profile. You're claiming all sorts of experience, and your profile is a warrior who hasn't' done jack shit for raiding.

The whole point of your post is completely opposite of the point of our forums. We're into theorycrafting about being the best possible, not about just being Good Enough. I'm pretty sure I could heal ICC on my priest using nothing but Flash Heal -- it doesn't mean that it's correct.

Finally clean up the grammar a little bit. Don't use things like "sry" "rly" "i" and so on. Thanks for your consideration.

Original Post:

Originally Posted by Varuk

Speaking of which, checking WoW-Heroes data again, fewer than 15 holy paladins on Medivh have been recorded wearing the Helm of Inner Warmth while a net total of 146 holy paladins on Medivh were recorded wearing the t9 helm. That's a failure rate of over 90% of the population. Is it a small fail? Yeah. But it's a fail nonetheless and it's a sign of the problem within the holy paladin community.

The simple truth of it is, the vast majority of WoW players don't know optimal from utter crap, and holy paladins seem to just have more such people than most classes.

I think you are simply wrong if you regeralize this as fail for all holy paladins. Sry, but mp5 is useless on all real fights where you dont have problem with mana but in same scenarios crit can be at least sometimes usefull (when not full overheal or as HL glyph help in aoe scenarios ).

I tried few gear choices crit/mp5 (including mail mp5 ones

), including checking logs during my ToC25GC clearings and result was clear. There was no need for prefering mp5 on gear over crit(int+number of sockets+haste is more important than mp5/crit choice on gear, sp is near same and for hhl pala nothing special)(i am haste hungry even over FoL cap due to my assigned role and enough mana).
My real raid "discoveries"
1. No problem with mana on those fights regardless of using mp5 or crit gear setup
2. Mana gain on spam intensive fights - weaving meele for mana gain procs between casts + replenishment effect(and innervate from feral in emergency case of need if other healers dying during encounter) is so much more than any other form of mana gain (crit/mp5) that you rly dont care which item you get first (crit or mp5 one) in relation to mana management
3. Only 2 healing intensive fights for me as HL pala are Twins(clump tactic) and Anu25HC (we are only healers HL+FL pala for 2 tanks MT+OT)
During Twins with this tactic you have heavy raid dmg and HL glyph healing gain rly nice from crit gear(last kill i finished with more than 1/3 mana in mostly crit gear)
During Anu25HC mana outside of last phase is not even thing that you need to watch becouse you will end with full mana always before next adds wave spawn(not even urgent need for using DP). And during last phase you need as much burst as possible to get OT up fast for adds from few k health to top and keep nonstop spam till adds wave dead or when tanks get PC(dont forget we are basicaly only 2 healers for tanks) so crit is rly usable too. You have all your CD rdy for p3 so with decent raid dps and without mistakes with overhealing raid, you finish fight without mana problems (and without need for DP too ofc).

So question is why are ppl so fanatic about differences between crit or mp5 regardless of fact that most time this difference on encountersd is not enough(and can be both way bad or good) and you can simply have few sidegear pieces for special encounters or assigned healing roles. Calling paladins bad names only becouse they take crit set helm over badges helm when you even dont know why they choosed one over another is showing us that you simply use guidelines on EJ as god words instead of own thinking about how to apply them in different encounters/situations.