I was thinking maybe he wanted to save some hotkey space?

He could write a macro so that if you hold shift or control, you can perform a different ability with the same key. There's a big macro thread in the warrior section of the regular WoW forums.

Arena Junkies has a really good macro section you can use as well, pretty sure there is a rend macro in there somewhere, whether it has hamstring or heroic strike as the precursor I honestly cannot remember however.

If you want to save hotkey space, you can basically take Rend off. It's uses are pretty limited now, I really don't see myself ever having the rage/time to use it. The only use it used to have was to keep rogues from vanishing, but Howl works just fine for that purpose, with the added bonus of snaring them.

I wouldn't take it off the hotbar, I like to keep rend on night elves, mages, hunters and druids. Those race/classes can all run away and reset the fight, rend makes it much more difficult for them.

Quick gear question, I was planning to spend my badges on tanking gear (I'm usually prot in pve), but then this caught my eye:

[Angelista's Revenge]

Is it worth using in arena instead of my [Veteran's Band of Triumph]? I'm currently at 389 resilience. Without the ring I would have 367.

Definitely. No question. It's like the [Signet of Primal Wrath] and that's what I use for my non S3 ring. Armor penetration is just that good.

I leveled jewelcrafting on my warrior just for Hard Khorium Choker. APen is notable in that it gives increasing returns - the more you have of it, the better each additional point is, until you get your opponent's armor to zero. The badge ring is an excellent choice for a second ring.

I've had some success in the 1850-2000 range in both 2s and 5s running at around ~300 resilience and 755 static ArP with CE; a little more resilience and less ArP with the S3 mace. When the badge vendor is unlocked on my server, I'll be swapping either the S3 belt or bracers back instead of PvE equivalents so I can use Angelista's Revenge (no luck on the Signet of Primal Wrath yet) without dropping below 300 resilience. If I had Stormrage Signet Ring, I'd use it; same with Madness of the Betrayer and Ancient Amani Longbow. There are just too many situations in which ArP will give you amazing returns for the investment due to the % of cloth class presence in arenas. You have to make some sacrifices to slot in PvE gear with heavy ArP on it, but I think it's worth it. For the occasions in which I'm focused, 50-100 more resilience rarely makes the difference -- it's how fast I am to predict or react to incoming damage that keeps me alive: hitting defensive stance, disarming melee on me, reflecting the spells that matter (Shadowbolt, Frostbolt) instead of the ones that don't (Ice Lance, Waterbolt).

And going along with the topic of ArP, one of the major improvements I've made to my play during this season is using Sunder Armor a lot more.

LodeRunner, how do you feel about 41/17/3 after trying it?

Uh, I just did a quick discussion of my my experience with it a page or two back. Then, immediately following that, you'll find a bunch of posts where I'm yelling at Celandro so if you find those you're getting close.

Summary: I don't plan to go back to it unless I do a test of 4pc T6 and 4pc Arena.

I'm still using tunnel-vision spec in all brackets (trying swords in 5s, mace is just so much fucking better in 3s/2s), that's 33/28 by the way, and it's worked pretty well. I tried ER briefly and found it to pretty much be both boring and the lack of SS in 3s/5s is just a huge HUGE detriment to my utility. Being able to layout 15k dmg in two globals is just no joke(queued cleave-crit, ms-crit, whirlwind-crit). I miss TM in 5s and 3s, but in 2s I really feel that not having flurry gimps me (I run with a shaman) since my partner is pretty good about keeping me out of CC.

I tried 41/20 and 45/13/3 with a resto shaman in 2v2s and I'm leaning towards 41/20 as I'm focused far more frequently. Only 8 games so far with 41/20 so I can't give a definite impression quite yet. I do find myself having to be more careful with my stance swaps to ensure that I can still spell reflect but it actually improves my situational awareness. I do put 5 points into imp MS in my 41/20 just because I'm addicted to the 3 ability cycle instead of the standard 4 ability cycle. Most of our losses have been to good druid teams or heavy cc caster teams, which I think switching to mace spec would help with.

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Didn't run 3v3 last week so no chance to fraps myself there yet. Hopefully our healer wont be afk the whole weekend this week.

I've tried 41/17/3,41/20/0,33/28,35/23/3, and the only build that I've consistently gone back to is 35/23/3, and once in a while 33/28/0. The only time rage is an issue is against priest teams where shields heavily gimp your damage. (These builds are having kept in mind playing with->druid/warlock 3s, druid/mage 3s, druid/ret paladin 3s). Its heavily dependant on your partners being able to either A)keep CCs off you or cleanse them, or B)You reflecting/LoSing as many as you can, of course CC is inevitable, it can't be avoided sometimes, and it happens but you should be trying to minimize the time you're spent in a cyclone or roots using pillars/SR. Also, what kind of teams are "heavily" CCing you? The only ones that come to mind would be like PMR, or Druid/mage/warlock teams

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Main reason I didn't like ER was that 10 second disarms were really noticable, you might say "oh its only an extra 5 seconds" but 5 seconds is a lot of time,especially if it lets MS fall off and you're unable to apply it for 5-6 seconds

This might be a silly question, but for the 1 hander when you have your shield out, should I go with the 2.6 speed one 1.5 speed one?

I'm usually not too worried about hitting anything when I have my shield out (spell reflect, defensive), so maybe a fast weapon allow me to hit more often, and proc mace stun more (or is that normalized?).

Or maybe the 2.6 speed one is just the obvious choice.

2.6 speed has a far higher chance to proc mace stun than 1.5 and is simply a better use of point once you have everything else. That being said, Dragonmaw/strike is fine if you don't want to spend pts on s3 1hander.

Just to clarify here- 2.6 speed has a higher chance to proc per swing. Over all swings, the chance is the same; however, you won't be able to swing 100% of your available swing time in PvP, and the higher delay is better.

Also, don't forget that you can actually do damage with a shield out. With a 2.6 speed 1-hander, 4 digit MS crits are still a very common occurance.

Ok, I know this is quite and old topic but, Piercing howl and Heroic strike in PVP. I've tried searching and only found limited results mostly for PvE but not PVP

WoW wiki says piercing howl daze does affect Heroic strike damage but I have a hard time believing that as I don't really notice any difference in PvP.

Basically, I just want confirmation.

The daze effect from Piercing Howl doesn't affect Heroic Strike. It should but it doesn't.

I wouldn't trust a website that described an opponent under the effect of Piercing Howl as "dazzled".

I'm pretty sure it did when they first added that whole functionality, but was reverted because of how easy it was to keep mobs/bosses Permadazed in a raid setting, thus boosting Heroic Strike's damage above the comfort level of the Devs.

I remember testing HS damage with PH daze and Shield Bash Daze, and HS definitely increased under SB daze, but not PH .

So I've been enjoying 2s with a pro shaman and we've had relatively good success against other healer/dps setups, but is there really any frakking hope againt rogue/mage? Pretty sure it's a lost cause and the only recourse is to just not play against those teams, but I'd venture that against rogue/mage, we lose 95% of the time - seems like the only way to win is to somehow put them on the defensive but there'e just too many cooldowns in this matchup to even put that team on the defensive for more than a second.

I recently began running war/druid in 2s. I am 33/28/0 mace spec. I find myself in defensive stance more often than not, I use a S3 mace and the shield off Illidan. I was wondering if I enchanted that mace with Battlemaster... would that be viable at all? If not what should I put on it.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

One last question, We seem to roll almost any team we play especially rogue/priest, but the one rogue/priest team jacked 68 points from us. The Priest would damage with the rogue almost non stop while dispelling all my hots and poison cleanse, druid would run oom and I would drop. Any thoughts on how to beat that team?